Glass – Photo sharing app and community • Hacker News Board

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by notJim » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 5:34 PM UTC

itake wrote: post #29

imwillofficial wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not a lie. This is a shorthand to quickly convey a meaningful feature. Namely, no algorithmic timeline manipulating what you see. It’s just that, a timeline. Next you’ll be telling me that calling something “cool” is a lie, because that new T-shirt doesn’t have a low temperature.

a timeline is an algorithm? Wait until people start gaming the timeline based algorithm by deleting and re-posting images, so they stay at the top slot. When does "no algorithm" become an algorithm? When you add ML?

In the common language used these days, "the algorithm" refers to the sorting/reranking companies like Facebook and now Twitter do to attempt to show you posts you're most likely to engage with. I think the vast majority of people reading that Glass has "no algorithm" will understand this.

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by notJim » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 5:36 PM UTC

I've been thinking of making something like this for many years. It's unfortunate how hostile Instagram is towards photographers, considering it's the main place people engage with photography. Will definitely be giving this a shot.

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by notJim » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 5:41 PM UTC

ISL wrote: post #8

Does it interact with the open web? Are there examples of public-facing profiles one might see? As Instagram closes down its interoperability with the open web even further (try visiting pages in an Incognito window -- sign-in is rapidly required), it opens the door to photo-sharing sites that are better net-citizens.

Oddly enough, one of their screenshots shows a URL[1], but that url doesn't actually work if you go to it.

https://glass.photo/royhandy/e8ewjkla

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by clarge1120 » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

somethinggggggg wrote: post #16

Why do companies insist on choosing non-unique, generic names for their products these days? I’m going to forget that “glass” means a photo app the second I close this tab.

It will take a lot of marketing to overcome this fact. "Glass" is a fine name that helps while you're taking in the features/benefits, but it does not help at all with retention.

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by clarge1120 » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 5:57 PM UTC

beyondcompute wrote: post #37

beyondcompute wrote: post #36

There’s not that much wrong with Facebook or Instagram. They are what we make them. You won’t have a new kind of community unless you somehow create a new kind of human. Or unless you introduce some kind of requirements for people who wish to enter. But that’s maybe “elitist”, right? :)

That got downvoted fast. Typical Hacker News. (ᵔ◡ᵔ)

I read HN almost every day, and the speed at which a comment can be eliminated my biggest complaint.

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by mkr-hn » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 5:59 PM UTC

beyondcompute wrote: post #36

There’s not that much wrong with Facebook or Instagram. They are what we make them. You won’t have a new kind of community unless you somehow create a new kind of human. Or unless you introduce some kind of requirements for people who wish to enter. But that’s maybe “elitist”, right? :)

Instagram wouldn't let me make an account. Even if I could make one, I'd have to think about what it means to link someone directly into Facebook's data collecting juggernaut by sharing a photo since the only way to view them nowadays is with an account.

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by klyrs » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 6:06 PM UTC

danellis wrote: post #9

> No algorithms I don't like this particular lie. It seems like as soon as we find it acceptable to tell it, we get to choose how complex or user-hostile the algorithm gets to be while still telling the same lie.

It's kinda like saying that a product contains "no chemicals." There's a truth that people are reaching for, but the language used is deceptive. Clearly, "select * from my_table order by insertion_time" is handled by an algorithm... but it isn't ranking content by hidden metrics, maximizing engagement, etc. that people mean by "algorithm."

When tools are used to do harm, they cease to have neutral meanings. Chemistry is villainized because of DDT; medicine is villainized because of thalidomide, AR-15s are villainized because of mass shootings, etc. Can we expect more nuance of a lay-audience?

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by marc » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 6:17 PM UTC

I've been using Glass for a couple of months now and it's really a breath of fresh air compared to Instagram. The focus is on the photography instead of sharing your lifestyle or whatever Instagram is meant to be these days.

I hope they can gather enough paying members to make it a sustainable business

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by djanogo » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

"Safety as a priority, not an afterthought

Our community has no space for hate. Glass is committed to creating a safe space for photographers. Members are required to follow our Code of Conduct. Blocking, reporting, and account deletion are day-one features."

I thought photography is art, which would challenge peoples ideas or thoughts, and this policy seems to indicate they will delete your account if they think it's offensive?

Re: Glass – Photo sharing app and community

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Post by mkr-hn » Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 6:45 PM UTC

djanogo wrote: post #49

"Safety as a priority, not an afterthought Our community has no space for hate. Glass is committed to creating a safe space for photographers. Members are required to follow our Code of Conduct. Blocking, reporting, and account deletion are day-one features." I thought photography is art, which would challenge peoples ideas or thoughts, and this policy seems to indicate they will delete your account if they think it'…

There has to be some standard of interaction or genuine, self-described genocidal nuts will take over. See: every attempt to create a moderation-free platform. The only people who'll stick around are real monsters and people who don't think they'll be the target if the monsters execute their plans.