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S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation

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Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

HelixEndeavor wrote: post #28
fsflover wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unlockable bootloaders so the users can load whatever they want Here you go: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 .

We shouldn't have to sacrifice performance, quality, and reasonable price points in order to have the basic things we've had in the desktop world for decades.

We've only had them for historical reasons. If any of the big manufacturers had the option to invent a "personal computer" now, I'm 100% sure running arbitrary code wouldn't make it to the feature list.

Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation

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Post by snarf21 »

causi wrote: post #3

I hate when a law or legal decision is aimed 45 degrees off like this. Letting manufacturers bundle their fucked-up version of Android is a bad thing. What we need is mandatory unlockable bootloaders so the users can load whatever they want on their devices.

I know that a lot of us more tech inclined want this freedom. But grandma is never running toolchain on a computer to install custom software. What 99% of people want is cheap/free and they will give up privacy to get it. I see this as SK giving its citizens what they say they want. I wish that wasn't the case but it seems like that is the world we live in.

Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation

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Post by baybal2 »

ggktk wrote: post #2

I recently installed LineageOS on my phone, replacing the stock MIUI. I would probably return this phone if I had no other option than to use MIUI. I much prefer the "pure" Android experience. For many essential and security critical apps to work, like bank apps or the McDonald's app you need to hide the fact you're using a modified system, because of SafetyNet. This hiding/bypass works for now, because it tricks Goo…

At least one SafetyNet TZ applet has leaked few years ago

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Post by fsflover »

causi wrote: post #37
fsflover wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unlockable bootloaders so the users can load whatever they want Here you go: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 .

Give me a Librem 5 with an SoC that isn't hot garbage and I'd buy it immediately.

Do you mean that it heats up too much? I don't think this is accurate after latest updates. Also, suspend is not implemented yet. It will greatly increase the battery life and make it colder.

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Post by [deleted] »

izacus wrote: post #10
ggktk wrote: post #2

I recently installed LineageOS on my phone, replacing the stock MIUI. I would probably return this phone if I had no other option than to use MIUI. I much prefer the "pure" Android experience. For many essential and security critical apps to work, like bank apps or the McDonald's app you need to hide the fact you're using a modified system, because of SafetyNet. This hiding/bypass works for now, because it tricks Goo…

Sure, but your LineageOS only works because Google is forcing manufacturers to pass CTS tests (which ensure that all Android devices are actually compatible with your apps). If that disappears, you'll end up with apps that only work on Samsung Androids and your LineageOS will stop being compatible. We're essentially going back to horrorshow of SymbianOS, where different Symbian devices weren't compatible between them…

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Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation

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Post by brendoelfrendo »

fsflover wrote: post #48
causi wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Give me a Librem 5 with an SoC that isn't hot garbage and I'd buy it immediately.

Do you mean that it heats up too much? I don't think this is accurate after latest updates. Also, suspend is not implemented yet. It will greatly increase the battery life and make it colder.

"Hot garbage," in this case, is just a colloquialism that means "it stinks." Garbage smells; hot garbage smells worse. They're not literally referring to heat or temperature.
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