Salesforce offers to help staff leave Texas as abortion law takes effect

Post by TheCoelacanth » Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 9:19 PM UTC

Gortal278 wrote: post #41

tekromancr wrote: post #37

As much as anti-abortionists will jump up and down screaming "it's murder!"; I don't think they genuinely believe that. If you had a choice between saving the life of an actual, breathing, crying child vs a tray, filled with dishes, all together accounting for HUNDREDS of fertilized embryos the choice is obvious. The anti-abortionist would have you believe otherwise, of course, but I think deep down in their souls th…

You should probably talk to an anti-abortionist. I assure you they do believe it's murder.

Post by kadoban » Mon, Sep 13, 2021, 1:23 AM UTC

alasdair_ wrote: post #43

kadoban wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What states that are left are actually going to sign on? And do you really think the current Supreme Court would let that stand? It seems unlikely to me.

Individual states are allowed to choose how to apportion their own electoral college votes. In the pst those votes were allocated proportionally to the votes but now almost all states assign all EC votes to a single candidate. I’m not sure what the supreme court can do here if the states change the way they want to assign votes.

Post by jeegsy » Mon, Sep 13, 2021, 12:23 PM UTC

runlevel1 wrote: post #16

tootahe45 wrote: post #13

Sounds like a publicity stunt, Salesforce knowing there will be zero uptake of course. The few female employees Salesforce has in Texas are probably of the educated type who aren't having unplanned pregnancies.

You can be held liable for aiding and abetting as well.[1] You don't have to have an unplanned pregnancy yourself to suffer from this law. Even if you aren't impacted at all, you might not want to live in a state where this sort of law is supported. Still probably not going to be a ton of people, but the gesture can still be appreciated. [1]: https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB8/id/2395961#:~:text=sec.%201...

Post by tekromancr » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 10:54 PM UTC

splintercell wrote: post #47

tekromancr wrote: post #37

As much as anti-abortionists will jump up and down screaming "it's murder!"; I don't think they genuinely believe that. If you had a choice between saving the life of an actual, breathing, crying child vs a tray, filled with dishes, all together accounting for HUNDREDS of fertilized embryos the choice is obvious. The anti-abortionist would have you believe otherwise, of course, but I think deep down in their souls th…

It would make a lot more sense if you actually took time to understand the opinion of those people whose mind you aim to change with your thought experiments. You can only come up with this thought experiment if you start from the assumption that a tray full of fertilized embryos is not life. Let’s imagine that you do believe that the tray full of fertilizer embryos is life, how would you answer this thought experime…

Post by tekromancr » Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 9:51 PM UTC

freddealmeida wrote: post #49

tekromancr wrote: post #37

As much as anti-abortionists will jump up and down screaming "it's murder!"; I don't think they genuinely believe that. If you had a choice between saving the life of an actual, breathing, crying child vs a tray, filled with dishes, all together accounting for HUNDREDS of fertilized embryos the choice is obvious. The anti-abortionist would have you believe otherwise, of course, but I think deep down in their souls th…

I certainly believe in some cases it is definitely murder. In others immoral and ethically dubious. In rare, specific cases, I agree it should be available. I think the sexual revolution has destroyed society. If you are risk averse, you avoid marriage and family building. Maybe it is the lack of responsible behavior on both sides.