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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by filomeno »

lowtto wrote: post #11

WSL2 is essentially just.. Windows + Linux. I tried it and it is awesome. Cannot wait to see further progress that comes out of this. I really cannot leave Windows to be honest. The network effect is too strong. Coupled with recent Microsoft effort such as Visual Code, its looking like they are doing nothing but going towards the better direction than the old days. Who would have thought. Would you believe it if anyo…

> Would you believe it if anyone said this to be the case, 10 years ago?

To be honest, Microsoft astroturfers have long existed, for much more than 10 years.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by son_ngu »

This is exciting. I dual boot Windows and Linux, cause although I really like my setup on Linux, the desktop experience is not quite there yet for me.

I wonder if I can use something like bspwm, maybe not... haha

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by ComputerGuru »

cogman10 wrote: post #24
wvenable wrote: post #22

That seems like a very complex architecture. RDP client and server? That seems like a strange approach for a single machine solution.

It's because WSL2 abandoned the initial goals of WSL1 and just did a VM instead. I wish MS continued evolving WSL1 instead of doing the VM approach but c'est la vie.

The amount of effort that went into WSL1 including the number of bug-for-bug changes involved was tremendous. It blew my mind when WSL2 was announced because the hyper visor approach was already possible (and in use) before WSL1 was announced but MS made an explicit decision to do the extra work to make their own Linux subsystem for Windows the harder/better way… then gave up.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by zamadatix »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #39
nwatson wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah bummer. My old Windows machine won't be upgradable to Windows 11 ... interestingly I was able to install the Windows 11 preview and even get the WSL2 update with the integrated X11/GUI and it worked great. However I was notified I couldn't upgrade to official build and the only recourse was to re-install Windows 10. I'll need to revert to one of the available X11 servers but I wiped out the old configuration and…

I have a solution for the disk/partition type/layout incompatible with upgrading to newer Windows 11 builds (but not the TPM workaround) but I haven’t gotten around to packaging it and publishing it for download on our site.

Don't think I've heard about those, what all requirements changed on the storage side there?

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by fgonzag »

lowtto wrote: post #11

WSL2 is essentially just.. Windows + Linux. I tried it and it is awesome. Cannot wait to see further progress that comes out of this. I really cannot leave Windows to be honest. The network effect is too strong. Coupled with recent Microsoft effort such as Visual Code, its looking like they are doing nothing but going towards the better direction than the old days. Who would have thought. Would you believe it if anyo…

I was also amazed with WSL, it genuinely made me think I didn't have to leave Windows anymore. It is honestly one of the best products Microsoft has launched recently. The development tools division of Microsoft is on fire and should be commended.

The Windows division is another story though. With all the Windows 11 news I decided to give desktop Linux a spin for the nth time in 20 years. Installed Manjaro and I'm extremely impressed. Even though I have Nvidia graphics everything is buttery smooth, all my productivity tools are there, setting up my VPN was far easier than Windows, and even more amazingly most of my games work well thanks to the recent push by Valve and the steam deck.

I will probably stick with it this time, so maybe for me 2021 finally is the year of the Linux desktop.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by 908B64B197 »

reilly3000 wrote: post #31

I wonder what Linux exclusive software they are hoping to support. Everything I use in my Ubuntu daily driver has a Windows build or corollary app. I get how ‘you never have to leave Windows’ is a nice thing for their business, but I don’t see this being a reason I would stop dual-booting. The only reason I run windows in the first place is for a few apps, mostly games. Otherwise I really enjoy the bloat-free, ad-fre…

> It would be nice if they did something actually useful, like add native ext4 support.

Other way around. The Kernel getting real support for NTFS (was merged into Linus' tree a month ago [0]) there's hope to get native performance on WSL2.

Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade.

[0] https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/linux-kernel-5-15-will-have-...

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by ComputerGuru »

zamadatix wrote: post #44
ComputerGuru wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a solution for the disk/partition type/layout incompatible with upgrading to newer Windows 11 builds (but not the TPM workaround) but I haven’t gotten around to packaging it and publishing it for download on our site.

Don't think I've heard about those, what all requirements changed on the storage side there?

I don’t know if it’s what the GP was referring to but partition requirements pertaining to MBR vs GPT and specific requirements for alignment, MSR properties, and order of partitions has been locked down considerably. Annoyingly they all manifest as an opaque “this PC isn’t compatible” or similar message.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

JorgeGT wrote: post #37
mathnode wrote: post #6

For those that don't know, this will only be available in Windows 11, see https://github.com/microsoft/wslg/issues/347#issuecomment-87...

I see that those of us with a 7th gen Intel core CPU that "need not to worry because W10 will be supported for years" will immediately start missing functionality.

To be honest I’m not going to miss the annual update that messes with all my settings and tries to force a MS account on me.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux GUI

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Post by [deleted] »

lowtto wrote: post #11

WSL2 is essentially just.. Windows + Linux. I tried it and it is awesome. Cannot wait to see further progress that comes out of this. I really cannot leave Windows to be honest. The network effect is too strong. Coupled with recent Microsoft effort such as Visual Code, its looking like they are doing nothing but going towards the better direction than the old days. Who would have thought. Would you believe it if anyo…

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