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Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

and oh my God don't get me started about glass ketchup bottles like they just don't work?! it's insanity trying to get ketchup out it's ludacris and oh my god

I'm thinking, all a glass bottle of Ketchup needs is a smart fridge able to detect that last bit and warn you about how hard it will be to get it out and offer advice on how to do so. Maybe some gamification could be thrown in, get more kudos the less you leave in? Yeah I'm filing patents and will contact Heinz... Think about the opportunity for notifications!

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Wow, 44 times a day, on average! That's about once every 20 minutes for the entire day. I can't imagine why anyone would need to access the fridge that often. It's almost like they don't understand what the fridge is for. Anyway, if you don't want this, don't buy it. They either wired their fridge into their network or gave it access to their wifi. What, exactly, did they expect? The guy even keeps saying "it's just…

He explains that his landlord bought the fridge and he has kids who are opening the fridge a lot.

A smart fridge would put the kids up for adoption in that case.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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No, but eventually the regulators will catch up and force the fridge companies to simply charge you by the second for the time the doors are opened above some generous free plan.

If I get behind on my opening allowence I will just have to stay up till midnight when my opens reset, grab everything I can and stack it on the counter for the day.

You think of it as a clever hack, but the data analyst at your health insurer, seeing the sudden midnight disappearance of half of the stuff in your fridge, may view it as a symptom of depression.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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> can't have lidars and map your home (while I can see no reason why this has to require Internet access and can't be implemented an autonomous way). This is a great comment. I would love smart appliances (e.g. Lidar-equipped robot vacuum cleaner) that are 100% offline. If anyone has a list of smart yet offline appliances, I’d love to shop there.

I can remember someone mentioned an old model (supposedly possible to find on eBay) which could be hacked to run a vendor-imitating server on itself and connect to it via localhost.

A few of the Xaiomi's and Viomi's are rootable. I have a Gen1 Xaiomi and it's brilliant. I got ssh access to the ubuntu install and installed https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo and run it 100% local via my home-assistant install.

dgiese is a proficient vacuum security researcher and has most of that stuff available here: https://github.com/dgiese/dustcloud

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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I am somewhat impressed that he's managing to open the fridge 44 times a day. Is he using it as a filing cabinet?

Ehh... when eating, easily I always forget someting in the fridge and end up opening it x times. Now that is even after meal is prepared and already opened y times. And then there are number of other people that may want to take something that was not interesting for me. Yeah, bad logistics, but I prefer opening multiple times vs keeping doors opened for longer periods of time.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

Ah, I get the same urge using Google Maps on my phone. Want to reach through the screen and slap the developers. So slow, so many key presses. So often it changes something up so I have to re-learn. So often it makes wild guesses that are completely off what I'm actually trying to achieve. Have to press back button a hundred times to get out of whatever it's showing me, whops one too many, app is now closed, have to…

> Have to press back button a hundred times to get out of whatever it's showing me, whops one too many, app is now closed, have to open up and get back to where I wanted.

This happens every time, and every time I wish there'd be a "back to start" action. It's probably faster to just kill the app and restart than navigate all the way back while being careful not to go back once too often.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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post #2

It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

> Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations.

There are people who would benefit from this reminder. They, however, tend to not drive Renaults, but Audis and BMWs.

> Do people even use the stuff they make themselves?

Last I’ve heard they were using A/B tests to choose between crazy features and batshit insane features to maximize engagement and brand awareness. So, I’m afraid the answer is no.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Somewhat related: my Netatmo weather station sends me an e-mail every few weeks that i should replace the battery of one of the modules. I assume it doesn’t like rechargeable batteries. I never replace them, can’t disable the e-mail. Support can’t fix this of course. So I’ve setup a server-side e-mail rule to send all netatmo.com emails to the junk to prevent being constantly spammed by them.

Is it powered off AAs? Rechargeable batteries have lower voltage than non-rechargeable ones[0], so maybe the module is a bit oversensitive when trying to guess the battery is about to die. -- [0] - With batteries I have around the house, it's 1.5V nominal voltage for typical non-rechargeable AA, vs. 1.2V for rechargeables.

Yea you’re probably right… it’s these batteries:

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-BK-4MCCA8BA-eneloop-Pre-Cha...

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I get behind on my opening allowence I will just have to stay up till midnight when my opens reset, grab everything I can and stack it on the counter for the day.

You think of it as a clever hack, but the data analyst at your health insurer, seeing the sudden midnight disappearance of half of the stuff in your fridge, may view it as a symptom of depression.

Damn, then they will put me on medication that will push up my appetite and make me go to the fridge more. It is like big fridge is in bed with big food which is in bed with big pharma.

At least I wont be anxious when the bill for my fridge door opening comes at the end of the month.

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