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Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by Krasnol »

commoner wrote: post #36

FediTips, a Mastodon account, recently shared some concerns about the Uyghur-related content in the largest Lemmy instance, which is run by Lemmy's developers: https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379 This created a firestorm on Lemmy, on which it was noted that Lemmy removes conservative and libertarian communities with the reason "No conservative communities": > Removed Community conservatives reason: No c…

But you can even host your own instance with all the "conservative" communities you want. Why not do that?

I mean, you must be aware by now that those "conservatives" did ruin a couple of actually good communities in the last years (especially in the reddit clone scene) and some people just don't want to deal with those people at all. And they shouldn't have to.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by enumjorge »

peakaboo wrote: post #30

People who don't see why platforms like these are critically important has never had an opinion that isn't allowed on the major tech platforms.

By and large what “isn’t allowed” on major tech platforms is racist, xenophobic, and homophobic content. You can still find a lot of non-PC, fringe content on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Reddit.

I get that censorship in major tech platforms is problematic, but the sense of martyrdom in comments like yours feels a little overwrought.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by reginold »

unraveller wrote: post #22
ddingus wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So join them. I do not mean ideologically. Just in conversation. More of us learning to talk with one another better is a really good thing. The American idea of leftism varies widely, and on all axis too. A similar thing can be found in the right. Both have populist factions that have a lot in common. Many identify as indie too. They lack a solid party home. Both have moderate and conservative factions too. Authorit…

The creators say they don't want people not of their ilk joining so this idea that open debate is welcome is disingenuous. They don't allow anyone to federate with the main instance either if they don't also toe the political line.

Can you explain what "don't allow anyone to federate with the main instance" means in this case? Is it like you can host your own server, but the "index" of servers at lenny.ml won't list you unless you meet their standards?

Seems acceptable to me (anyone else can host their own index right?) just trying to understand.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by potamic »

Could someone ELI5 how the federation model works in practice? From the understanding, there is one entity that owns the core technology but the operators of the servers are distributed and independent. How do they typically manage things like scale, data growth, security, monetisation etc.? Is the experience likely to vary a bit across the operators? And how do users trust which operators then want to join?

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by skohan »

nicbou wrote: post #16

My options are "Run a server" and "Join a server" This is not an alternative to reddit, where you would see a front page with content on it.

I agree, for something like this to take off, you need someone to invest heavily up front in creating a user experience which is worth using - which means content.

The tech is the easy part, you need to have a place that is worth going before the tech will be utilized.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by pugets »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #4
darthrupert wrote: post #2

Lemmy's default instance leans heavily to the contemporary american idea of leftism. This doesn't affect the actual software in any way, only that community is a bit disturbing.

You're being rapidly downvoted but to play devil's advocate I wonder if you could explain why you think "American leftism" is "disturbing".

Modern American leftism, at least on social media, is really weird.

You have a lot of these so-called leftists rebelling against the philosophies of Marx and other communist philosophers on very fundamental issues (e.g. gun ownership for the proletariat, or the freedom of speech) all because of the current political climate in America. At the same time, these people will support and protect Big Tech and other capitalist interests when it is politically convenient to do so. I've heard American leftism once jokingly called Socialism with Silicon Valley Characteristics.

Ask any one of these new-age leftists what they think of Alex Jones' YouTube channel being banned, and they will hit you with a response that would disturb any of the Gen X leftists who grew up in an era where Communist was a dirty word and the protection of free speech was a top-most necessity. New-age leftists have grown up in the left-sympathetic social media era and cannot conceptualize the pendulum ever swinging the opposite direction.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by [deleted] »

lmm wrote: post #34
LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're being rapidly downvoted but to play devil's advocate I wonder if you could explain why you think "American leftism" is "disturbing".

I'm not the person you replied to, but today's American leftism practically mandates a belief in blank-slatism on race, gender, and IQ, to an extent that’s inimical to sincere science in those areas. And that ends up having a wide impact on science generally and policy generally.

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Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by reginold »

unraveller wrote: post #39

The front-end is still buggy and needs a designer's touch. And the real-time aspects wear thin at scale with all the notifications in a mismatch of languages showing up in the main feed. Lemmy is practically unusable without a personal feed filter, it seems that of the new reddit alternatives only retalk_[1] want to get this right. If you do decide to run an instance of lemmy be sure to nuke the absurd word filter -…

How strange they would include word filters that are hard to edit. Seems counter to their whole mission...what?

Edit: actually it would make sense if word filters themselves were hard to add. But having their own filter and making that hard to edit is bonkers.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by reginold »

enumjorge wrote: post #42
peakaboo wrote: post #30

People who don't see why platforms like these are critically important has never had an opinion that isn't allowed on the major tech platforms.

By and large what “isn’t allowed” on major tech platforms is racist, xenophobic, and homophobic content. You can still find a lot of non-PC, fringe content on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Reddit. I get that censorship in major tech platforms is problematic, but the sense of martyrdom in comments like yours feels a little overwrought.

What would you say if you were truly anonymous?
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