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Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by rory »

thehappypm wrote: post #29

The Colorado law to me strikes me as a pretty huge government overreach. I fully believe in minimum wage laws, and that feels like an appropriate regulation to me, but this just feels like it's almost attacking these companies, interfering with their hiring processes, and I fully see why companies would rather not bother hiring in what boils down to 1 mid-sized metro area than deal with the consequences.

> this just feels like it's almost attacking these companies

Can you explain why you feel that way? It just seems like something similar to price transparency to me.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by redconfetti »

bmmayer1 wrote: post #20

This is a predictable consequence of a shortsighted legal requirement. How many people will be deprived of work opportunities because of this law? How many jobs will Colorado lose over the next decade or more until the legislature realizes what they've done?

This might just be a growing pain as other states adopt similar legislation.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by MontyCarloHall »

I’d love to see a law that goes a step further and also mandates that everyone’s salary be public knowledge to everyone else within the same company. If this generates resentment, it means the company is poorly managed. The company would therefore either be compelled to fix their pay discrepancies (thereby allaying the resentment) or risk losing resentful employees to other companies.

It would also be great if this current law forced companies to disclose accurate ranges (e.g. ±1σ from the median pay for a given title). Otherwise, they can specify arbitrarily huge ranges and make the whole thing meaningless.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by lotsofpulp »

rsj_hn wrote: post #30
lotsofpulp wrote: post #12

Businesses are not truly desperate for labor until they start publicly advertising minimum pay rates and quality of life at work. A few restaurants around me have started listing their starting pay, plus sign on bonuses, so they are finally feeling the heat.

Or it could be that some businesses are desperate for labor and others aren't.

That is what I meant. You can tell how desperate a business is by whether or not they are publicly advertising payrates.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by CountDrewku »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #33
CountDrewku wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is it has less to do with laziness and more to do with the financial cost of opening yourself up to lawsuits if you can't prove the wage difference isn't due to sexual discrimination. While I like the idea of forcing these companies to list salary on job posts I'm not sure I agree with the reason the bill was put in place. If I were a company I'd avoid CO as well. Plenty of other places to pick up employees.

>My guess is it has less to do with laziness and more to do with the financial cost of opening yourself up to lawsuits if you can't prove the wage difference isn't due to sexual discrimination. Why would they not be equally open to that risk right now? I am not seeing any special connection between publicly listing a pay range and an applicant's gender.

Because the jobs aren't open to CO residents.

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb19-085

Here's the bill's summary:

>Wage discrimination based on sex - complaints - civil action - exceptions to prohibitions against wage differentials - prohibited acts of employer - employment announcements required - enforcement - rules. The act removes the authority of the director of the division of labor standards and statistics in the department of labor and employment (director) to enforce wage discrimination complaints based on an employee's sex and instead authorizes the director to create and administer a process to accept and mediate complaints of, and provide legal resources concerning, alleged violations and to promulgate rules for this purpose. An aggrieved person may bring a civil action in district court to pursue remedies specified in the act.

Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by abatilo »

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Re: Companies that are avoiding hiring in Colorado

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Post by ilikecakeandpie »

silexia wrote: post #32
lotsofpulp wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Price transparency is a basic requirement of efficient markets.

What would be even better is making all tax records public. Then everyone knows what everyone else makes. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

I have to hard disagree here. There are a lot of bad actors and abusive/manipulative people who would use this information to unfairly pressure someone if they knew how exactly much they made.
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