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Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

#41
How is bot support ? (Or just regular accounts that can send messages using APIs and not GUI clients)

I run an instance of matrix for alert bots only but Synapse is too heavy and Dendrite is focusing too much on federation and less of chat related features.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Giving this project such a politically charged name is a bit cringey. It could turn some people off who would otherwise be interested. Unless of course you're only interested in targeting a more narrow group to begin with. That's ok to, it just potentially limits the reach of the user pool. For an app whos success will be governed by 'network effects', it helps to cast that net as wide as possible instead of narrowin…

Yes, it's just not a good name. Revolt sounds very similar to Riot... which was a messenger that got renamed to Element last year - https://element.io/blog/welcome-to-element/

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Nothing on the Roadmap [1] about encryption. [1] https://revolt.chat/roadmap

written in Rust!

don't forget to `curl https://sh.rustup.rs | sh`!

Footnote: As the Rust community continues to bash everyone over the head about how safe it is while completely fucking up the 101 shit we've all been saying not to do for over 20 years, I'm going to continue to treat it how it smells.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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post #9

Giving this project such a politically charged name is a bit cringey. It could turn some people off who would otherwise be interested. Unless of course you're only interested in targeting a more narrow group to begin with. That's ok to, it just potentially limits the reach of the user pool. For an app whos success will be governed by 'network effects', it helps to cast that net as wide as possible instead of narrowin…

How come a similarly politically charged name hasn't prevented the wide adoption of Discord?

How come Riot changed it's name to Element?

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Not sure "written in Rust" is a headline thing that's worth mentioning anymore. Particularly amusing in this case when parts of Discord are written in Rust too.

Yeah that makes sense. Revolt was posted to r/Rust yesterday so OP is probably a person who frequents r/Rust and thought it was notable.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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it's not written in Rust, it is written in Typescript the backend is written in Rust if you use Discord, you don't care about the backend, it doesn't run on your machine This is something i notice about rust users, they promote "written in Rust" more than the products Very bad marketing

> if you use Discord, you don't care about the backend, it doesn't run on your machine

If you use Discord you probably don't care about self hosting, which a Revolt user might.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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post #28
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://revolt.chat/about They're marketing to a privacy aware audience which is, unfortunately these days, political to some.

Ok having read the about page, it starts to tell a narrative. It's helpful and gives me a better idea about the motivations behind thebproject, but as a brand name you dont get to force everyone to read your /about when they first see the name Revolt. But on the specific issue, consider if someone is a proponent for privacy, but isn't sure if the're joining software created by activists they disagree with, maybe the…

>consider if someone is a proponent for privacy, but isn't sure if the're joining software created by activists they disagree with .. the folks behind Gab

Gab is a hilarious example because it is a non-federating fork of Mastodon.[0][1] This is especially noteworthy because the ActivityPub "Fediverse" is full of antipathy between camps of users who run Mastodon (more Left) and those who instead run Pleroma (more Right) to the point where you can predict a user's politics by the software their homeserver is running. Is this the future of FOSS that we want?

If you support the right of individuals to run social networks, and if you believe in libre software, you have to understand that sometimes people will use the tools you release for free to do things you disagree with.

An analogy: if you're a manufacturer of hammers, you have to accept that someone could use your hammer to commit a murder.

[0] https://joinmastodon.org/ [1] https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2019/07/statement-on-gabs-fork...

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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post #17
post #9

Giving this project such a politically charged name is a bit cringey. It could turn some people off who would otherwise be interested. Unless of course you're only interested in targeting a more narrow group to begin with. That's ok to, it just potentially limits the reach of the user pool. For an app whos success will be governed by 'network effects', it helps to cast that net as wide as possible instead of narrowin…

https://revolt.chat/about They're marketing to a privacy aware audience which is, unfortunately these days, political to some.

When political parties are constantly trying to undermine privacy in most of the world with excuses ranging from terrorism to "think of the children", it's hard to pretend it's not political.

That said I don't find "revolt" all that bad. Out of context it's only political if you let it, just like "master" branches aren't a statement about slavery by themselves.

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