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Re: We Hire Old People

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you think is illegal about it? They make it clear that age is not an issue.

Many full time jobs include language preventing you from working a second job in a similar role.

Never accept such jobs unless you are desperate. Your employer does not control or own your spare time. Don’t cede control of it to them!

Re: We Hire Old People

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post #30

I wrote the ad. Holy cow, I didn't expect to be #1 on Hacker News. Will answer any questions. Here's one you might ask: Why? I'm pushing 60 and I've attempted to interview for developer jobs over the last year. Got nowhere despite 40 years of experience. Getting really, really tired of this industry's attitude toward people like me. Based on questions below, I'll give a bit more. Earlier this year I had a personal re…

What is it that happens?

Do you get to the interview and then they see your grey hair and treat you like Grandpa?

Do they just not call you for an interview at all?

Is it the leetcode and focus on the specifics of very new and flashy tech that is the problem?

Re: We Hire Old People

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you think is illegal about it? They make it clear that age is not an issue.

My thought is that it might be illegal to do consulting without your employer's approval in some places (like the US).

It could be a breach of contract, but it would be up to a court to decide if that part of the contact is enforceable.

Guessing it's not illegal to solicit someone under such a contract, but potentially a new hire could be ordered by a court to stop working at the new company, or a 3rd party could make claims that the outputs of their former employees are owned by said 3rd party.

IANAL

Re: We Hire Old People

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> The hiring process is in the form of a paid, short-term consulting gig that will lead to a full-time offer if we like you and you like us. We'll give you some tasks, you'll get them done, and then we'll talk. No need to quit your day job to do this gig; we'll work around your schedule. Interesting. I look forward to hearing if this works out long term. I'd be worried about legal implications of something like this…

I wouldn't call it not legal, but it indeed can violate the terms many employees sign when they join a company. I think it's a matter of how they frame it. If they frame it as actually doing some work for the company then I would say that would be illegal for many. But if it's framed as an interview then maybe it's OK. Not a lawyer, I assuming it's gray area.

Re: We Hire Old People

#45
post #30

I wrote the ad. Holy cow, I didn't expect to be #1 on Hacker News. Will answer any questions. Here's one you might ask: Why? I'm pushing 60 and I've attempted to interview for developer jobs over the last year. Got nowhere despite 40 years of experience. Getting really, really tired of this industry's attitude toward people like me. Based on questions below, I'll give a bit more. Earlier this year I had a personal re…

I wonder what you attribute the ageism towards? I wonder what actual or perceived traits trend with age that hiring managers are trying to avoid?

I'll venture one idea-- Once you have enough experience you start to be able to see the emperor has no clothes situations. Not being naively positive about everything can be interpreted as being overly negative (at least in the bay area). Funny enough it might just be the "negative" ones are more accurate (Depressive Realism) .

Re: We Hire Old People

#47
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you think is illegal about it? They make it clear that age is not an issue.

Many full time jobs include language preventing you from working a second job in a similar role.

How far does that extend when interviewing? Some companies claim all code written. In theory that might include your leetcode.

Re: We Hire Old People

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post #30

I wrote the ad. Holy cow, I didn't expect to be #1 on Hacker News. Will answer any questions. Here's one you might ask: Why? I'm pushing 60 and I've attempted to interview for developer jobs over the last year. Got nowhere despite 40 years of experience. Getting really, really tired of this industry's attitude toward people like me. Based on questions below, I'll give a bit more. Earlier this year I had a personal re…

What is it that happens? Do you get to the interview and then they see your grey hair and treat you like Grandpa? Do they just not call you for an interview at all? Is it the leetcode and focus on the specifics of very new and flashy tech that is the problem?

Don't even get to the interview stage. My tech skills never got assessed.

Re: We Hire Old People

#49
post #26

Clickbait basically. I feel they would be better off going to GitHub and messaging people working on the type of projects they are looking for. I like the consulting part. Maybe they don't absolutely need an FTE and are keeping the option of having a part time consultant on the table.

> Clickbait basically. Not really, The "We Hire Old People" was just something the HN submitter picked. It's not the title of the original job posting.

The HN submitter appears to be affiliated with the company, though, and the text here does seem chosen in an editorial way in order to drive engagement.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28304777

Re: We Hire Old People

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post #30

I wrote the ad. Holy cow, I didn't expect to be #1 on Hacker News. Will answer any questions. Here's one you might ask: Why? I'm pushing 60 and I've attempted to interview for developer jobs over the last year. Got nowhere despite 40 years of experience. Getting really, really tired of this industry's attitude toward people like me. Based on questions below, I'll give a bit more. Earlier this year I had a personal re…

Refreshing. Great ad design and to the point. 8/10. I would give it 10/10 if you included compensation range.
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