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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Lots of negative comments here. Can someone actually comment on whether this is even remotely possible today? Or is this more than a decade away?

The answer to your question depends on whether you think level 5 autonomous vehicles is remotely possibly today or if it is a decade away.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Why humanoid? That's such an inefficient and overcomplicated structure for a "menial job" home robot. This is either a PR stunt or a luxury product.

It needs to be compatible with all human spaces and human tools. It'll need to be general purpose to keep unit costs low. This is why the human form is the best. It's not a menial home robot. It's designed to replace humans in every kind of physical labor.

This reminds me of images from the 1900s depicting the future when there were humanoid robots with lots of arms cleaning lots of dishes at once. Of course, it turns out, we did invent a machine to wash dishes but its just called a dish washing machine and is way better at it than humans with arms.

I can't imagine many tasks where a humanoid will be useful. I'm sure you could say that something like house construction could be done by humanoids since there are lots of steps involved but I'm still skeptical that a bunch of specialized tools won't be better at this.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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This won’t be vaporware forever. Seeing the latest from Boston Dynamics makes that abundantly clear. The utility for general purpose robots is immense in difficult environments like the surface of Mars, where O2 wouldn’t be needed. I anticipate a small number of companies making the hardware, and a large, diverse workforce training, supervising, and maintaining android fleets for a variety of tasks. The legal system…

Industrial use will certainly happen. Personal use not so much though. By the time robots are feasible you'd be crazy to have one in your home. Like all new tech these days robots will be leveraged against you at every opportunity. They'll be constantly recording audio and video and reporting the events and contents of your household to companies and to the state. Maybe the legal changes will happen eventually to pre…

I'm still befuddled what the industrial applications are.

At some point a car factory had people moving stuff around and screwing things in and out. Now we have arm robots and conveyor belts and other machines which do not resemble humans at all but are obviously way better. We still have humans involved but I think the best way to minimize how often they are on the floor is with better specialized tools.

I feel this is the equivalent of building a robot to be your rickshaw driver instead of just realizing you can build a self driving vehicle with nothing that resembles a human invovled.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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post #37

Lots of negative comments here. Can someone actually comment on whether this is even remotely possible today? Or is this more than a decade away?

What do you mean, the robot or FSD?

The robot clearly not. And FSD yes, but they need to recognize the system will never be level 5. Basically as a company you don't want to be responsible of system failures.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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This won’t be vaporware forever. Seeing the latest from Boston Dynamics makes that abundantly clear. The utility for general purpose robots is immense in difficult environments like the surface of Mars, where O2 wouldn’t be needed. I anticipate a small number of companies making the hardware, and a large, diverse workforce training, supervising, and maintaining android fleets for a variety of tasks. The legal system…

General purpose field robots like this are further away than level 5 driving, by a long margin

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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post #37

Lots of negative comments here. Can someone actually comment on whether this is even remotely possible today? Or is this more than a decade away?

Have you seen the Boston Dynanics videos? If Tesla can do even minor improvement, say with how they do the joints or packaging it better - deciding different constraints to use as guidelines - then it doesn't seem too far fetched; price point will be another factor.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Add it to the long list of Elon projects permanently in a state of releasing "next year".

It's a fair criticism that Elon Musk would probably agree with.

He attempts extraordinarily ambitious things that very few other people would even dream of attempting. Sometimes things take longer and/or perform worse than he hoped they would. Sometimes he succeeds beyond anyone's expectations. In any case, he keeps trying to push the world forward, and that's the highest calling of any engineer in my book.

I still can't book a 25 minute SpaceX Earth to Earth flight from LA to NY but I wouldn't be surprised if I could in 10 or 15 years.

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