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The Bullshit

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#41

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I've done startups for 25 years which has included publishing, there's nothing special about the hours of journalists. Every profession thinks that they put in more work and hours than others. Ask anyone at a law firm.

Oh, "startups" you say? So no actual newsroom experience. Well, when I want to know what it's like to fuck around with Wordpress, I'll ask for your input. Bullshit indeed.

Only a Top 100 internet property with billions of monthly impressions and hundreds of writers, but yeah sure no experience.

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#42

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Oh, "startups" you say? So no actual newsroom experience. Well, when I want to know what it's like to fuck around with Wordpress, I'll ask for your input. Bullshit indeed.

Only a Top 100 internet property with billions of monthly impressions and hundreds of writers, but yeah sure no experience.

That's both adorable and utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand. I've worked in a newsroom. You've heard of one. It's like you're intellectually flagellating yourself with your own brand of self-importance at this point.

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#43
> What has changed is that the press used to maintain certain boundaries in the relationship, observing the incest taboo. It kept its pants zipped, at least in public. It didn’t hire ex-CIA directors, top FBI men, NSA brass, or other past and future sources to sit beside its anchors at spot-lit news-desks that blocked our view of their lower extremities. But it gave in.

Incredibly, this essay about bullshit is bullshit. Here's a snip of journalism from 1977:

"Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty‑five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters. Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services—from simple intelligence gathering to serving as go‑betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors without‑portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested in the derring‑do of the spy business as in filing articles; and, the smallest category, full‑time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of America’s leading news organizations."[1]

The long, well documented history of intelligence services mixing in with journalism is impossible to miss if you do any research at all.

> The other day when Cuba erupted in protests, numerous stories explained the riots, confidently, instantly, as demands for COVID vaccines.

This is more bullshit. The protest started on July 11th. Here are some headlines/bylines/opening paragraphs from that week:

(BBC 7/13) Cuba protests: Arrests after thousands rally against government: Dozens of people have been arrested in Cuba after thousands joined the biggest protests for decades against the island's Communist government, media and opposition sources say.[2]

(Reuters 7/11) Cuba sees biggest protests for decades as pandemic adds to woes -- Chanting "freedom" and calling for President Miguel Diaz-Canel to step down, thousands of Cubans joined street protests from Havana to Santiago on Sunday in the biggest anti-government demonstrations on the Communist-run island in decades.[3]

(WaPo 7/12) Cubans hold biggest anti-government protests in decades; Biden says U.S. stands with people -- Communist Cuba erupted in its largest-scale demonstrations in decades on Sunday as thousands of people chanting “freedom” and “yes, we can” took to the streets from Havana to Santiago de Cuba in a major new challenge to an authoritarian government struggling to cope with increasingly severe blackouts, food shortages and a spiking coronavirus outbreak.[4]

The only way you could arrive at the same conclusion is if you did not read any of the news from that week.

Take the author's advice, avoid bullshit. However, actual bullshit is usually essays like this, which are really opinion pieces that do not attempt to mention any facts at all. If your "alternative media" is nothing but opinion pieces that count other similarly prejudiced opinions as research, it's bullshit all the way down. Journalism has some bullshit mixed in, as does everything, but at least there's a chance you will walk away with some information.

[1] http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57813704

[3] https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/street-protests-break...

[4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/07/11/cuba-protest...

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#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only a Top 100 internet property with billions of monthly impressions and hundreds of writers, but yeah sure no experience.

That's both adorable and utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand. I've worked in a newsroom. You've heard of one. It's like you're intellectually flagellating yourself with your own brand of self-importance at this point.

> you're intellectually flagellating yourself

There's nothing special about newsroom journalists. Like somehow they're the only people on the planet with deadlines, or that everyone is waking their editor up at 3am with that important story that just needs to make morning print.

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#46

I feel a bit privileged, and in a dangerous way, because feeling like you're special can be an illusion that is easily shattered. Here's what I mean. If I was born earlier, like say a baby boomer, I'd have less education in critical thinking, but I'd also be more protected by the news media than the time when gen Z grew up. By that I mean most of the stuff in the paper at the time was down the middle, somewhat bland…

> My university educated in laws in the UK are doubting the outcome of elections in the US.

Democracy is like science. If you don’t constantly doubt at least a little bit and check the outcome continuously, but instead just trust blindly, you’re doing it wrong.

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#48

> but it isn’t the news and it hasn’t been for ages. I have a better idea. The news has always been shit. There's this weird fetish with "freedom of the press" that distorts the fact that news is still a business, run by free market forces, with the same distributions of incompetence and corruption as any free market. It used to be the "nightly news", but we now have a 24/7 always-on consumption culture and news orgs…

Yes, but journalists are usually journalist because they WANT to be journalists. Local journalism pays rates that make teachers look like kings, and local journalists routinely put in 60-80 hours of work a week. It's a job that requires passion, because there are far more of them who are making under minimum wage at an hourly rate than there are who are making six figures.

Do you have any (including speculative) ideas that could explain why our news is so bad, given that most journalists are passionate about their work?

Re: The Bullshit

#49
If this article piqued your interest but you want something a bit more detailed, I'd recommend Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman. Good book, a bit one-sided at times, but very interesting in its analysis of the implications of TV on culture. Much of what he describes in the latter chapters seems even more applicable in the age of Twitter and Snapchat.

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#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but journalists are usually journalist because they WANT to be journalists. Local journalism pays rates that make teachers look like kings, and local journalists routinely put in 60-80 hours of work a week. It's a job that requires passion, because there are far more of them who are making under minimum wage at an hourly rate than there are who are making six figures.

Do you have any (including speculative) ideas that could explain why our news is so bad, given that most journalists are passionate about their work?

I don't think that our news is "so bad."

I think it's written by human beings who have a limited subset of knowledge, many times because sources aren't forthcoming or verified, and that if we ever held developers to the same standard that we held journalists, that it'd be nigh-impossible to hire any of them.

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