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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

#41

Anyone have good/bad experience moving from 1Password to Apple' iCloud Keychain? I've recently been using keychain for new accounts, but not sure I wanna bite the bullet and go all in - just need a nudge.

I thought about it, but decided I’d miss 1Password’s 2FA auto-fill too much — it’s a huge timesaver for me.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

#43

1Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!

Well they’ve released a Linux app built in Rust, so maybe there’s hope?

The Linux app is electron as well.

They just like to say that they use Rust for the backend code. Rust for the backend of the client apps, React for the UI, wrapped in Electron.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

#44

I actually don't have a problem with this, but I do have a problem with press releases that are sprayed with emojis. It's incredibly unprofessional and gives a real amateur flavor to the whole thing, which for security software is really offputting.

To be pedantic, it looks like it's actually an official reply on a community forum, not a press release. Also, thinking that the use of emoji reflects the software quality is a mistake in our current culture.

Sure it does. It does in the same way if you would use purple bold text in script font. The point is that it’s completely unnecessary.

Imagine emojis in IETF RFCs. No thanks.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

#45

This makes sense to me. Lots of other products have head in the same direction over time (e.g. YNAB) for similar reasons. SaaS is familiar to consumers and ultimately a nicer business model for most products. If you support SaaS for new customers, maintaining the old product / pricing model indefinitely eventually stops making sense. At some point you have to make a move like this. It is probably particularly timely…

I will run the installed version of YNAB as long as it runs on my computer, and after that I'll probably run in in a virtual machine until the end of time. I am not comfortable with my financial information being on the cloud in the hands of a third party, much less so when it is not the likes of Google and Apple with armies of security engineers and can be hacked much more easily.

Yeah I can totally understand that. I'm similar with the sync feature: the last thing I'm going to do is give them (or their 3rd party provider) my actual bank credentials. I would feel better if they supported some type of end-to-end encryption. I can also understand how, at least from a business perspective, most users probably don't care enough to not use it.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

#46
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1Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!

How does one check if an app running on a mac is native or electron?

Usually evident from Activity Monitor, if you see Helper (GPU), then you have an Electron app running.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

#47

1Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!

It's still native as of version 7. edit: apparently 8 will be electron-based. So... no standalone subscriptions AND they've moved from native to electron :/

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

#48

1Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!

It is native, what are you talking about?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28143563

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

#50
I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and fast, and I generally trust the engineers to do a good job since they’ve done a good job with it in the past) Also they make a CLI tool for accessing passwords allowing you to integrate password management there: https://1password.com/downloads/command-line/
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