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You'd be right, except IIRC Comma hasn't gotten anyone killed because of (at best) misunderstood advertising (or seeing a barrier as a road, etc.).

I don't think that is for any other reason than math. Autopilot has driven multiple orders of magnitude more miles than Comma.

They do also have the highest consumer reports rating of all the autopilot-esque systems.

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Missed a real opportunity here to call it Tres Comas. The beginning of the video complete with awkward nerd dancing in a dayglo hoodie is also pitch-perfect Silicon Valley.

I've wondered if there is any relation.

context: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ginapace/2019/11/29/diageo-laun...

Re: Comma Three [video]

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Missed a real opportunity here to call it Tres Comas. The beginning of the video complete with awkward nerd dancing in a dayglo hoodie is also pitch-perfect Silicon Valley.

I've wondered if there is any relation. context: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ginapace/2019/11/29/diageo-laun...

facepalm nope its just their naming strategy, comma.ai -> comma, comma two, comma three... presumably comma four?

Re: Comma Three [video]

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I once had a chance to go to George's house for a party, and all I can say is I was totally floored. I don't think I've ever been around a group of people who were so smart and just cool in my life. When I left a part of me really wished that I had somehow met a group of people like this in college or something. Just really smart, cool people, and most of all good. Everyone there was a genuine, mission driven person…

I once got a recruiting e-mail from comma.ai and the tone was very much acting like obviously I want to work for George Hotz and I'm so lucky he's willing to chat with me so what time should we schedule the meeting? I'd never heard of him nor the company and it all seemed very pretentious. They also sent it to my work address, which is not exactly classy. To be fair, it was probably a bad recruiter, not George's faul…

No, that's on brand. George is a person I'd love to have a conversation with or, hell, work with but could never work for.

I have had a Comma 2 for a while and the Discord has soured me to the company a bit. Lets leave it at that.

Re: Comma Three [video]

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've wondered if there is any relation. context: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ginapace/2019/11/29/diageo-laun...

facepalm nope its just their naming strategy, comma.ai -> comma, comma two, comma three... presumably comma four?

don't forget comma prime.

Re: Comma Three [video]

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I bought the comma two about a month ago and really like it. Is there anything that comma three can do that the comma two can't do like lane changes without driver checking first, self navigation?

comma three will be getting nav and e2e longitudinal while comma two will only be getting e2e longitudinal. the comma three will also get longer support.

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Having done a Seattle > SF > LA and back roadtrip with a Comma 2 back in March/April, this looks really cool. Even with the very modest hardware of the Comma 2, it effectively takes all the stress out of highway / stay-in-lane driving. In my Audi A3, the car's ACC handles the accelerator and brakes, and openpilot handles the steering. It made the trip a whole lot more relaxing. It was also just a whole lot of fun to…

The pricetag is where I'm struggling to justify it right now. While the unit is compatible with Nissan's ProPilot it's not clear to me just how much more value I'd get out of adding the comma, but it doesn't seem like 10% of the car's value over what I already have.

Maybe with later software releases if it improves beyond 'the same as propilot but better at lane following'.

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It is weird that the general opinion of Comma on HN appears to be positive while the general opinion of Tesla's Autopilot on here is generally more negative. It seems to me that all the complaints about Tesla including marketing, safety, and technological feasibility apply as much or more for Comma.

Hotz is a true hacker, Musk is a pseudo-nerd businessman. Tesla overstates their capabilities and is more interested in keeping their stock price high than in doing what is best for consumers.

> pseudo-nerd businessman

I find this attitude towards Musk so, so odd. Where are you getting your info?

He was coding PC games as a teen, wrote the code for zip2, was the cto at x.com, and taught himself rocket science from textbooks (as confirmed by other rocket scientists). If that’s a “pseudo nerd”, who qualifies as a “real nerd”?

Re: Comma Three [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd be right, except IIRC Comma hasn't gotten anyone killed because of (at best) misunderstood advertising (or seeing a barrier as a road, etc.).

I don't think that is for any other reason than math. Autopilot has driven multiple orders of magnitude more miles than Comma.

Yeah. We're approaching two million Teslas on the road now, and virtually everyone one of these has autopilot. I mean, yeah, with a sample size like that someone's going to find every edge case in manners ranging from hilarious to catastrophic. Just yesterday there was a guy on reddit claiming to have discovered one fork in Yosemite where, apparently, five Teslas have all wrecked their bumpers on the same rock. I believe it.

At the same time, it really is hitting all those edge cases. And the worst news in months is a cranky rock of doom?

I use this thing ever day. It's pretty amazing. I haven't driven Comma/OpenPilot yet, and wish them the best too. But the Tesla hate is approaching derangement at this point.

Re: Comma Three [video]

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stick around for the questions -- the one about how he does nav is amazing. Just stick a convnet on it and feed it in like anything else.

As an aside, does anyone else get richard feynman vibes from the way geohot speaks?

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