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Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contract NASA gave to SpaceX

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Re: Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contract NASA gave to SpaceX

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Call them what you want. They pushed the world forward, period.

Going to the moon again is pushing the world forward? Why? Humans got there and there's been no reason to go back

"Why? Humans got there and there's been no reason to go back"

-- Europeans in 1493 about the Americas...not!

Re: Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contract NASA gave to SpaceX

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Call them what you want. They pushed the world forward, period.

Going to the moon again is pushing the world forward? Why? Humans got there and there's been no reason to go back

These companies aren't going to the moon, the US government is going to the moon using these companies. These companies are significantly lowering the cost of going into space and eventually going to Mars. That is moving the world forward.

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I know this is completely random, but I just love how HN posters rarely communicate with each other past one or two comments.

It probably has something to do with not getting notified when someone replies to your post.

I think it's more to do with lack of social engagement. It's not difficult to figure out how to refresh your accounts comment page.

Re: Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contract NASA gave to SpaceX

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Why can't they cooperate instead of compete? It's not like they don't already have all the money they'd ever need or could use, and wouldn't the world be better off if they worked together than against each other?

Space is expensive. Bezos is pumping 1 billion per year into the company and the blue origin proposal was for 13 billion. Even for Bezos that's not chump change.

Too much money might be part of Blue Origin's problem to deliver. SpaceX did not have the luxury to take ages, they had to build a working rocket to be able make money or die otherwise.

I can only recommend Eric Berger's excellent book "Liftoff" to gain insights into SpaceX' way of working to get the Falcon 1 rocket off the ground and eventually into orbit. I cannot imagine Blue Origin having operated in a similar way at any point in their history.

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It's really a shame what has happened to Blue Origin. They've gone from a promising space startup to yet another purveyor of perpetual vaporware. Where is the BE-4 engine? Delayed, again and again. New Glenn, the rocket that could actually go into orbit? Same. So far their only functioning hardware (New Shephard) is, in effect, a glorified amusement park ride. Considering that SpaceX has actually made it to orbit mul…

Everything SpaceX is successfully launching today was similarly delayed during development. It's too early to write off Blue Origin, especially since Bezos just got involved in it full time.

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Re: Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contract NASA gave to SpaceX

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Call them what you want. They pushed the world forward, period.

They have certainly pushed the world. Whether the direction we're going is 'forward' is extremely debatable. It certainly might look that way from certain positions, but not all points of view agree, and there's no clear way to determine which should be privileged.

It's one thing to disagree, another to call them sociopaths.

If what they're doing is debatable - let's debate then. With respect for each other and with civility.

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Why can't they cooperate instead of compete? It's not like they don't already have all the money they'd ever need or could use, and wouldn't the world be better off if they worked together than against each other?

Would it be better if C, Java and Rust were integrated into a single überlanguage with one central committee to drive further development?

From a layman's perspective, an idea like that would make superficial sense; they are all programming languages, after all. From a programmer's perspective, that would be a nightmare.

I think the companies are so far apart that extensive technical cooperation would slow them both down. Maybe they could share a weather service or even a drone ship fleet for landings, but not the core products and their parts.

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Why can't they cooperate instead of compete? It's not like they don't already have all the money they'd ever need or could use, and wouldn't the world be better off if they worked together than against each other?

It seems like ULA's team-up with BO hasn't been going well

Re: Jeff Bezos loses attempt to block the Moon-landing contract NASA gave to SpaceX

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Call them what you want. They pushed the world forward, period.

Going to the moon again is pushing the world forward? Why? Humans got there and there's been no reason to go back

This is an incredibly small minded perspective. Difficult challenges require new technologies, new processes and new ways of thinking. More specifically, technologies developed through the race to land on the moon (and space flight generally) are integral to almost every aspect of 'your' life and define what most of us consider human flourishing.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies#:~:t....

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/infographics/20-inventions-we-would...

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