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Re: Cuomo pushes employers to force their employees return to NYC

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Post by PhineasRex »

giantg2 wrote: post #37
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How has he not been impeached already? Simple answer? He's delivering on policy. Legalised weed. Election reform. Ex-convict rights reforms. New tax package. Much of this was gridlocked. Magically, the grease hit the wheels when impeachment came into focus. None of this will win him another term. But he's functionally useful and not showing signs of becoming an albatross on the party.

Do you have more info on why it was gridlocked? I thought many of these initiatives passed by wide margins, like 2:1 for weed.

If you really want to know look know further than Cuomo's mismanagement of the governor's office (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-cuomo-miscond...)

Re: Cuomo pushes employers to force their employees return to NYC

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Post by iammisc »

giantg2 wrote: post #22
ezekg wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, I was pointing out these "conspiracy theories" back in 2020 and nobody cared then and frankly nobody cares now. Complacency and apathy of The People -- that's how he's not impeached. The same goes for many other representatives.

I would add that it's mostly tribalism and avoiding cognitive dissonance. Democrats were calling for Desantis' head because he was thought to be cooking the numbers. Republicans are calling for Coumo's head because he was cooking the numbers. In general, people ignore things that don't fit, and seek out things that do fit, their existing world view.

> Democrats were calling for Desantis' head because he was thought to be cooking the numbers. Republicans are calling for Coumo's head because he was cooking the numbers.

Except, rational people can see that someone being 'thought to cook the numbers' and someone 'cooking the numbers' are wholly different things and only one 'side' worthy of condemnation in this instance.

Re: Cuomo pushes employers to force their employees return to NYC

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Post by jjeaff »

nerdponx wrote: post #3

The current headline is: "Cuomo begs businesses to return to NYC after devastating shutdown" The article is full of some funny quips, too: > "So let me get this straight..when Republicans have been saying this that means they are science deniers trying to kill people, but when @NYGovCuomo finally says this today then he is a genius who should write another book about his incredible leadership?" Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y…

Don Jr.'s quip is only funny if you are laughing -at- him.

There was a pretty good reason not to encourage employees to come in to the office in NYC months ago.

Re: Cuomo pushes employers to force their employees return to NYC

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Post by giantrobot »

nerdponx wrote: post #3

The current headline is: "Cuomo begs businesses to return to NYC after devastating shutdown" The article is full of some funny quips, too: > "So let me get this straight..when Republicans have been saying this that means they are science deniers trying to kill people, but when @NYGovCuomo finally says this today then he is a genius who should write another book about his incredible leadership?" Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y…

> The article is full of some funny quips, too:

Neither of those quips is funny. They show what should be an embarrassing level of ignorance if not outright stupidity. The state of the world even six months ago was COVID vaccines were only available to the most vulnerable groups. Six months ago clamoring about states opening up and people returning to offices was asinine. Six months ago a small enough portion of the populace was vaccinated that the danger of COVID spreading was the same as the preceding six months.

Re: Cuomo pushes employers to force their employees return to NYC

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Post by PhineasRex »

iammisc wrote: post #34
fnord77 wrote: post #30

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Chesa got 14% of the vote. And my gut feeling on city sentiment is right, he’s going to get recalled.

is this true? How is one elected with 14% of the vote?

It's not true. He got 50.8% of the vote. Even if you just look at the first round of IRV he got 35% of first-choice votes (https://ballotpedia.org/District_Attorney_election_in_San_Fr...)

Re: Cuomo pushes employers to force their employees return to NYC

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Post by iammisc »

PhineasRex wrote: post #45
iammisc wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is this true? How is one elected with 14% of the vote?

It's not true. He got 50.8% of the vote. Even if you just look at the first round of IRV he got 35% of first-choice votes ( https://ballotpedia.org/District_Attorney_election_in_San_Fr... )

Thanks for the source. Even if I were to try the best interpretation of the claim above, which would be that Boudin got 14% of the vote in the first round of a ranked choice scheem, that falls flat. Boudin was the first choice of a plurality of the city. This claim falls extremely flat.

Re: Cuomo pushes employers to force their employees return to NYC

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Post by bradleyjg »

giantg2 wrote: post #37
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How has he not been impeached already? Simple answer? He's delivering on policy. Legalised weed. Election reform. Ex-convict rights reforms. New tax package. Much of this was gridlocked. Magically, the grease hit the wheels when impeachment came into focus. None of this will win him another term. But he's functionally useful and not showing signs of becoming an albatross on the party.

Do you have more info on why it was gridlocked? I thought many of these initiatives passed by wide margins, like 2:1 for weed.

There’s was infighting over how to divide up the financial benefits of legalization.

Re: Cuomo pushes employers to force their employees return to NYC

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

PhineasRex wrote: post #40
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How has he not been impeached already? Simple answer? He's delivering on policy. Legalised weed. Election reform. Ex-convict rights reforms. New tax package. Much of this was gridlocked. Magically, the grease hit the wheels when impeachment came into focus. None of this will win him another term. But he's functionally useful and not showing signs of becoming an albatross on the party.

Those things were deadlocked by his office . The legislature had tried legalizing weird years ago, for example. His office is notoriously dysfunctional and only gets around to doing anything when he needs a political win.

> were deadlocked by his office

Yes. But ask yourself why? In each case, powerful constituents sat in opposition. For legalized weed, it was the restaurant and liquor lobbies. Those lobbies focussed on him because they knew he'd listen. If Cuomo took a "they can shove it" attitude from the start, they'd have dispersed and likely been more effective. (There is also an Albany tradition of legislators voting for bills on the Governor's assurance of a veto.)

With respect to dysfunctionality, the on-time budgets and--to the degree one can in a one-party state--fiscal restraint hints at deeper mechanics. In that respect, Cuomo's governship is almost Caesarian. Where Cuomo is, things happen. Where his attention isn't, useless deputies are screwing things up.

Re: Cuomo pushes employers to force their employees return to NYC

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Post by omegaworks »

jjeaff wrote: post #33
SmellTheGlove wrote: post #24

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I mean, NYC rents are still through the roof. They could build out housing in these tall empty spaces.

I think that it is actually quite expensive and time consuming to convert office space to residential. The main issue being plumbing. Most offices are setup to have a few restrooms and maybe a sink in each space for the break room. It's a rather difficult problem when you go from 5 rarely used sinks on each floor to needing to supply water and waste drainage for maybe 50 sinks, 50 showers, 50 bathtubs, 50-100 toilets…

Sucks to suck. If any industry is lacking for capital to face a pivot it certainly isn't real estate. The interest rate is ridiculously low and no one seems to believe it will change.
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