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Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

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Re: Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

#41

Post by brennanm »

volkk wrote: post #31
some_thoughts wrote: post #20

This looks really clean, congrats! But also from my end, this leaves me pretty unmotivated. I've been working on an mvp to launch my own startup the past month, and today I find out it already exists in your product.

as a new manager, had the same exact idea and found a few companies in this space[0][1] (and now this one too) ultimately decided there's just too many competitors. my only gripe with all of these is that they're heavily subscription based/pay to use monthly, etc. i want something more personal that i can just purchase for like $10-20 (more like an app on my mac that i can just use forever) my other gripe is that i d…

We have a small team starter plan that's $5 total for your first 5 users.

Also, we'll only charge you for additional users if you a) invite them and b) they sign in and become active.

So definitely can stay at $5/m and use it as a personal tool for as long as you want to. It's on the product to convince you your life can be significantly easier through inviting people, not me

Re: Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

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Post by akcreek »

brennanm wrote: post #39
akcreek wrote: post #35

Curious what the thinking is with the steep volume discounts? It is cheaper to have 251 users than it is to have any number between 41 and 250. You run into some weird pricing this way. For example, 250 users on the pro plan is $1,000/mo while 251 is $220.88.

It's volume pricing for users above that threashold, if that makes sense. So, the first 100 users are $5.60/u/m or $560/m, if annual (to keep numbers consistent). 101 users would be $564/m as only the 101st user would be $4/m on the annual plan. We stole this model from jira.

Gotcha, so the lower pricing applies to the incremental users. I didn't get that from reviewing the pricing page.

Re: Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

#43

Post by dzonga »

Feedback: Looks like a cool product. But from a design standpoint, have all SV / YC companies run out of creative designer juice ? let's say I randomly landed on your site, and there's 1000s that look similar, I can't really follow the message you're sending. because my brain, will take a shortcut. since it's something it has seen countless of times.

Re: Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

#44

Post by h5amin »

akcreek wrote: post #42
brennanm wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's volume pricing for users above that threashold, if that makes sense. So, the first 100 users are $5.60/u/m or $560/m, if annual (to keep numbers consistent). 101 users would be $564/m as only the 101st user would be $4/m on the annual plan. We stole this model from jira.

Gotcha, so the lower pricing applies to the incremental users. I didn't get that from reviewing the pricing page.

Aah thanks for that feedback - Out of curiosity, and if you don't have an answer all good it's not your job at all haha, but:

How would you go about explaining our pricing to a peer/what would you change about the page to make it more clear?

Thanks in advance :)

Re: Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

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Post by h5amin »

dzonga wrote: post #43

Feedback: Looks like a cool product. But from a design standpoint, have all SV / YC companies run out of creative designer juice ? let's say I randomly landed on your site, and there's 1000s that look similar, I can't really follow the message you're sending. because my brain, will take a shortcut. since it's something it has seen countless of times.

Appreciate that feedback! The existing designs are about 2 years old and we've just spent some time redesigning certain parts of the marketing website (rolling out the new homepage first). Did lots of customer calls and are pretty excited about it!

I'll be sure to ping you once it's live. Alternatively... would love your feedback before it's live if you're up for it :)

hiba at hypercontext.com. We can even loop in our UX designer who is also the marketing designer. :)

Lmk!! Would really love to connect

Re: Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

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Post by akcreek »

h5amin wrote: post #44
akcreek wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gotcha, so the lower pricing applies to the incremental users. I didn't get that from reviewing the pricing page.

Aah thanks for that feedback - Out of curiosity, and if you don't have an answer all good it's not your job at all haha, but: How would you go about explaining our pricing to a peer/what would you change about the page to make it more clear? Thanks in advance :)

It's definitely tough to articulate. It's basically the same concept as progressive taxation in the US as your rate increases on a per dollar basis when moving through the brackets. Though you are going the other direction and discounting deeper as you move through the brackets!

It seems to be a subject that trips a lot of people up. It's really common to see people talk about their marginal tax rate as if it is their effective tax rate. "I pay 24% in taxes and make $175K/year" - Not really though, you paid 24% on ~$4K of income, but 10% on the first $19,750, 12% on the income from $19,751 to $80,250, etc. Your marginal tax rate is 24% as that's what you'll pay on the next dollar, but your effective tax rate on all income earned was actually 14% (or whatever it actually is, just a loose example).

In your case, the discount is so significant that I'd think you'd want to showcase that. Maybe a slider to adjust the number of users and show the dollar amount of the discount as well as the total percent saved, which will continually grow as you increase the bucket of users in that lowest bracket?

Or in that FAQ you could give an example of a 300 person workspace and show how the calculation pencils out. Having to do math to figure out the ballpark cost of the product isn't great though, so if the info is public (ie you don't have to contact sales) then you should probably make it super easy to get to.

Just some ideas. You never know, everyone else might get it right away and I could have just been slow on it. My brain definitely went to doing rough math and thinking about how weird the pricing is at different user counts though!

Re: Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

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Post by bb88 »

brennanm wrote: post #29
1123581321 wrote: post #28

Feedback on initial workflow: 1. Used sign in with Google 2. Immediately presented with calendar read/write permissions, declined. 3. Went back and signed up via email. 4. Was told that an org already exists but no details (did I make it earlier? Can’t tell.) 5. Told 13 days of trial remaining (was an org created yesterday or does it just round down to 13 as soon as one second has passed?) 6. Only one active user, me…

You're doing gods works here. Thanks so much. Please do ask for a reset when you get the chance and/or email me directly brennan at hypercontext.com would love more feedback like this

I feel like using hackernews as your QA is a bad practice that needs to stop.

Re: Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

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Post by thesandlord »

bb88 wrote: post #48
brennanm wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're doing gods works here. Thanks so much. Please do ask for a reset when you get the chance and/or email me directly brennan at hypercontext.com would love more feedback like this

I feel like using hackernews as your QA is a bad practice that needs to stop.

Why?

HN readers seem like the best folks to beta test a product on as they can give a lot of actionable feedback and have context on what good systems should look like.

And we typically like helping fellow hackers/entrepreneurs/etc.

Re: Launch HN: Hypercontext (YC S21) – Meeting notes, actions, and OKRs in one app

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Post by brennanm »

bb88 wrote: post #48
brennanm wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're doing gods works here. Thanks so much. Please do ask for a reset when you get the chance and/or email me directly brennan at hypercontext.com would love more feedback like this

I feel like using hackernews as your QA is a bad practice that needs to stop.

They’re giving feedback on the experience. Nothing was broken, just confusing.

Using HN for feedback is pretty core to YC’s value for batch companies and has been going on for quite some time

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