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Re: Fake apple stores

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I seriously thought that it had simply been torn down and replaced with a bank in the mean time – hey, it’s China. That could happen. It used to be "Only in America" that the world muttered in disbelief. This century, I'm thinking "Hey, it’s China. That could happen" might just be the new black, as it were.

Were we Americans this crass and exploitive in the late 1800's? Not rhetorical, but a genuine question. I've heard the opinion expressed that we indeed were.

As it happens, I bought yesterday a volume of Anthony Trollope's _North America_ (1862) in a used book store yesterday and noticed the passage

"There is, I think, no task-master over free labor so exacting as an American. He knows nothing of hours, and seems to have that idea of a man which a lady always has of a horse. He thinks that he will go forever. I wish those masons in London who strike for nine hours' work with ten hours' pay could be driven to the labor market of Western America for a spell. And moreover, which astonished me, I have seen men driven and hurried, as it were forced forward at their work, in a manner which, to an English workman, would be intolerable.... The complaint that wages are held back, and not even ultimately paid, is very common. There is no fixed rule for satisfying all such claims once a week, and thus debts to laborers are contracted, and when contracted are ignored."

As for intellectual property, the textile industry of New England got its start with English designs in something of an underhand way, I recall.

Re: Fake apple stores

#42
A lot of the official Apple resellers in non-US countries have also lifted the entire Apple store look -- wood tables with products, white walls, lots of glass, white banner signs. The only difference is they don't call it an Apple Store.

Re: Fake apple stores

#43
I feel really terrible for the employees who work at these stores, thinking they are working for Apple. I think about how I felt when I got a job I really wanted at that age, and the joy they must have felt when they were hired, and telling all of their friends and family that they were Apple employees.

Look at the photos of the employees. They look so sincere and earnest. I can only imagine the disappointment they will feel one day when they find out they're working for a con man.

I'd love it if this story ended with "and then Apple, seeing how badly Kunming wanted to have an Apple Store, came along, built a real one, and hired all the employees at the new, legitimate store."

Re: Fake apple stores

#44
There are countless examples of this. I too was amazed at how widespread the cloning was when I visited China. I recall this massive 'Hazma 6' billboard along one highway in Shanghai and being warned not to drink a particular bottle of water in Dalian. Who rips off bottle water? China!

Who can forget the ripoff X5 that they attempted to put on display in Frankfurt? (http://goo.gl/oPD5y) BMW wasn't having it.

Oh, have you seen the poorly cloned Disney World? (http://goo.gl/DO6Ii)

Re: Fake apple stores

#45
How do the people doing these knockoffs miss the little details like "stoer"?

They're obviously putting a tremendous amount of work into the clone, is hiring a native English speaker to look at it and make sure the English looks like English that much of an extra expense?

When I'm sending posters and promotional materials to our printer (as in: the company that does printing, not the device), I go over it again and again, then usually get a second and third set of eyes to triple check it for spelling errors.

These knockoffs are really good, it's kindof sad that they're so close, but missing it with the little stuff.

Or do they not really expect any English speakers to show up? If that's the case, why the English words at all?

Re: Fake apple stores

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post #45

How do the people doing these knockoffs miss the little details like "stoer"? They're obviously putting a tremendous amount of work into the clone, is hiring a native English speaker to look at it and make sure the English looks like English that much of an extra expense? When I'm sending posters and promotional materials to our printer (as in: the company that does printing, not the device), I go over it again and a…

> Or do they not really expect any English speakers to show up? If that's the case, why the English words at all?

Because it makes the store look trendy and sophisticated. Sort of like how many Americans will think some product is "upscale" if it has a French name or the voiceover actor in the ad has a British accent.

Re: Fake apple stores

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Evidence that our current intellectual property regime is simply not practical in a quickly emerging economic powerhouse?

I think it's more a result of the fact that China produces little intellectual property of its own right now. Enforcing copyright would raise costs, hinder development of copycat industries, and deplete the mountain of foreign exchange they've accumulated through exports. In addition, unlike most small countries that don't have domestic IP industries, China is not susceptible to US and European pressure. The US event…

"once they dominate the IP industries"

Well English isn't the primary language there, that should probably make a difference in how things play out compared to the US.

EDIT: (compared to the US pirating British works)

Re: Fake apple stores

#48

I feel really terrible for the employees who work at these stores, thinking they are working for Apple. I think about how I felt when I got a job I really wanted at that age, and the joy they must have felt when they were hired, and telling all of their friends and family that they were Apple employees. Look at the photos of the employees. They look so sincere and earnest. I can only imagine the disappointment they w…

Real, legitimate Apple products are going to be something like six times more expensive than the counterfeits.

It's not out of pure malice that prevents Apple from segmenting markets-- if the iPad sold in China is too much cheaper than the iPad sold in America, then people will just purchase iPads by the thousand to resell them in America.

Re: Fake apple stores

#49

It looks like they are selling genuine Apple products. So the only thing this store is guilty of is using the "Apple Store" name without permission. There is nothing illegal about running a store that sells only Apple products, and decorating it in a matching way. It is quite common in China to see small stores that sell only Lenovo, only Dell or only Sony products, and they are not usually run by the brands.

  It looks like they are selling genuine Apple products. 
Oh please. What evidence are you basing this judgement on, the blurry cameraphone pictures from this blog post? Magic? Intuition that of course a counterfeit store, operated by a third party, will only carry genuine items?

Re: Fake apple stores

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post #45

How do the people doing these knockoffs miss the little details like "stoer"? They're obviously putting a tremendous amount of work into the clone, is hiring a native English speaker to look at it and make sure the English looks like English that much of an extra expense? When I'm sending posters and promotional materials to our printer (as in: the company that does printing, not the device), I go over it again and a…

> Or do they not really expect any English speakers to show up? If that's the case, why the English words at all? Because it makes the store look trendy and sophisticated. Sort of like how many Americans will think some product is "upscale" if it has a French name or the voiceover actor in the ad has a British accent.

Yeah, if you go to a French bakery in the USA, and everything is labelled in French and in English, does it even matter if the French is correct?
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