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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

ggreer wrote: post #30
CharlesW wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's an even bigger echo chamber than FB. The trick is to block early and often. The feed is what you make it.

I can't block the topics that Twitter constantly recommends.

This is it, no matter what words you mute, no matter how much you block/mute users. Twitter considers it of the utmost importance that they get to push content, politics and news they consider important in a 3rd of the screen, always.

The last thing I care about in the world is what employees at Twitter consider valuable to put in the "What's happening" column.

Twitter could do with taking a page out of TikTok's and oldschool Reddit's book at making their app about me and my interests and passions rather than being a megaphone for a few insufferable bluechecks and twitter employees that I struggle to hear my interests from under the cacophony of things I do not care about.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by jdeibele »

par wrote: post #4

> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets this is exactly my problem with Twitter. It's an even bigger echo chamber than FB. As much as I try, I can't seem to escape the oversaturated bubble of a handful of extremely loud mouthed tweeters and their ardent followers. Mix in the t…

I use lists. I found https://github.com/KrauseFx/twitter-unfollow which moves all of your follows to a private list. Then move people from the private list to a topic list.

I also use Tweetbot on my Mac, which allows me to filter retweets. That means I only see what people say. I do use another filter on my National Basketball Association list to block a certain keyword.

The downsides of Tweetbot is that it doesn't support everything that Twitter offers (polls, probably fleets, etc.) and is about $10.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

dbbk wrote: post #36
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #31

The lack of innovation at Twitter, Instagram and Facebook is utterly baffling and points to a serious culture problem. Feels there are rooms of people now just being paid to clone successful features from other apps and only after those apps have carved their place in the market, literally become followers rather than trailblazers. In just a few years Instagram is going to seem completely old hat to anyone who didn't…

I actually quite like the lack of innovation on Twitter. It takes an enormous amount of restraint to keep saying no, and stick to a small, simple vision. I would hate a hypothetical Twitter that turns into another Facebook amalgamation of 75 products.

>It takes an enormous amount of restraint to keep saying no, and stick to a small, simple vision

They literally just cloned Clubhouse and are going to put it at the top of your feed because it was the cool new app for like 3 weeks last year..... How is that restraint?

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by cameronh90 »

leviathant wrote: post #17
par wrote: post #4

> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets this is exactly my problem with Twitter. It's an even bigger echo chamber than FB. As much as I try, I can't seem to escape the oversaturated bubble of a handful of extremely loud mouthed tweeters and their ardent followers. Mix in the t…

Be selective in who you follow, and if you're following someone who shares interesting thoughts but retweets too much, you can turn off their retweets. That in combination with being judicious on the block button makes Twitter one of my favorite social networks.

I am careful but Twitter still shows tweets that people I'm following have liked. And they always seem to be the most enraging tweets (presumably with great engagement).

Basically I want my Twitter to be a politics-free zone, but I can't help it if some of the people I follow occasionally like political tweets.

Also, today it has been sending me a push notification to the same race politics tweet repeatedly even after I keep dismissing it. The author isn't anyone I follow and the tweet wasn't liked by anyone I follow - Twitter is desperately trying to get me to see it though.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by Tycho »

It was incredibly annoying how it took up significant real estate at the top of the screen and there was no way to disable the feature. Good riddance.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by nyuszika7h »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #34
leviathant wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be selective in who you follow, and if you're following someone who shares interesting thoughts but retweets too much, you can turn off their retweets. That in combination with being judicious on the block button makes Twitter one of my favorite social networks.

Absolutely don't use the block button, they can tell you've blocked them and it can open yourself up to harassment. Use mute instead.

You can also unfollow them, or soft block (block and then unblock, which forces them to unfollow you), which are both noticeable but not as bad as a hard block.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

arkitaip wrote: post #18
CharlesW wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's an even bigger echo chamber than FB. The trick is to block early and often. The feed is what you make it.

This simply doesn't work. I've tried every tool and trick available and sooner than later the feed becomes filled with drama, politics and random noise. Partly because humans are inherently social and political, partly because Twitter will throw random tweets and topics at you.

I'm on at least my 15th account. Speaking as something with a barely-serviceable love-hate relationship with the service... You have to add people slowly, and be quick to unfollow if you notice a disturbance in the force. Even though I'm keen on programming and related topics, I don't follow a lot of very-popular IT-type folks because of the drama they bring, ESPECIALLY "infosec" Twitter. I've noticed that's a bubble among bubbles. I love a lot of the folks in that bubble, but I won't follow them because The Algorithm gets heavily weighted with them.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by bigdang »

One thing I never understood about Twitter, and what keeps me from tweeting, is why on earth everyone needs to see how many likes, replies, and retweets my tweet has? I will never be a Twitter influencer, and have no desire to be. I just want to tweet one-off learnings or thoughts I have without the awkward struggle of trying to compete with others.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by JohnFen »

par wrote: post #4

> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets this is exactly my problem with Twitter. It's an even bigger echo chamber than FB. As much as I try, I can't seem to escape the oversaturated bubble of a handful of extremely loud mouthed tweeters and their ardent followers. Mix in the t…

I agree. Twitter is too unpleasant (for me) to use.

I know there are ways of actively managing it to reduce the toxicity, but that's a lot more work than it's worth to me.

At least as far as what keeps me off Twitter, Fleets missed the point entirely.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting

Did Fleets address the problem of political extremists using Twitter to go after people's livelihoods?

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