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Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

LargeWu wrote: post #15
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #7

Interesting. I listened to this on the Tim Ferris podcast and, foolishly in retrospect, just took it at face value. I generally enjoy Pollan and I suppose I assume he has integrity, or is trustworthy in his writing and podcasting. Regardless, this seems to potentially fall into the category of misremembering or simply having a different frame of reference at the time. Diverging points of view are common enough, espec…

One of the reasons I stopped listening to Ferris’s podcast is that he’s a totally uncritical interviewer. His guests are allowed to blatantly self promote

I agree, but I still enjoy some of his guests. His podcast can serve as a good stepping stone to other great people.

Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by t8e56vd4ih »

jonstewart wrote: post #38

I saw Michael Pollan speak many years ago, ~2005?, at the LA public library, about _The Omnivore’s Dilemma_. He talked about nostalgia for family farms; I grew up in Iowa on a family farm, and in 2005 I knew that rural America had been depopulated and small family farms were few and far between. I asked him how that “density” could be restored, to recreate what he wanted. He had nothing to say, nor had much to say ab…

that's also my impression after reading his book on psychedelics. interesting and eloquent but also shallow and generic.

Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

ramraj07 wrote: post #17
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #7

Interesting. I listened to this on the Tim Ferris podcast and, foolishly in retrospect, just took it at face value. I generally enjoy Pollan and I suppose I assume he has integrity, or is trustworthy in his writing and podcasting. Regardless, this seems to potentially fall into the category of misremembering or simply having a different frame of reference at the time. Diverging points of view are common enough, espec…

Not to invoke Godwin’s rule, but this scenario seems a bit too far off from acceptable for “that’s now how I remember things going down” to just let it slide, blaming someone else with a clearly different storyline in a fundamental sense seems a lot more deliberate on the persons part. Just because you didn’t care enough about he involved subjects to walk away from a podcast doesn’t mean the truth can just be twisted…

I’m generally pretty selective of what I listen to, and I try to by critical of what I hear, so the idea of being bothered by what I hear isn’t too crazy. There are definitely episodes/casts/whatever where I hear things and come away disappointed.

You’re probably right though; if what Pollan said elicited a response, he probably shouldn’t have said it. I’m wondering why he did, now. It wasn’t a very entertaining account by any means.

Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by mjfl »

t8e56vd4ih wrote: post #42
jonstewart wrote: post #38

I saw Michael Pollan speak many years ago, ~2005?, at the LA public library, about _The Omnivore’s Dilemma_. He talked about nostalgia for family farms; I grew up in Iowa on a family farm, and in 2005 I knew that rural America had been depopulated and small family farms were few and far between. I asked him how that “density” could be restored, to recreate what he wanted. He had nothing to say, nor had much to say ab…

that's also my impression after reading his book on psychedelics. interesting and eloquent but also shallow and generic.

This is why I'm afraid to do drugs. I'm worried that it will do something to my brain so that I'm impressed by shallow experiences.

Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by specialist »

jonstewart wrote: post #38

I saw Michael Pollan speak many years ago, ~2005?, at the LA public library, about _The Omnivore’s Dilemma_. He talked about nostalgia for family farms; I grew up in Iowa on a family farm, and in 2005 I knew that rural America had been depopulated and small family farms were few and far between. I asked him how that “density” could be restored, to recreate what he wanted. He had nothing to say, nor had much to say ab…

I've been saying, to anyone who will listen, that:

Pay kids to move to, or simply stay, in Kansas.

After the kids get some relevant degrees, give them zero interest loans, new tractors, whatever. I really don't care what it costs.

Simply redirect all those agricultural subsidies from corporations to families.

Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by sooheon »

specialist wrote: post #45
jonstewart wrote: post #38

I saw Michael Pollan speak many years ago, ~2005?, at the LA public library, about _The Omnivore’s Dilemma_. He talked about nostalgia for family farms; I grew up in Iowa on a family farm, and in 2005 I knew that rural America had been depopulated and small family farms were few and far between. I asked him how that “density” could be restored, to recreate what he wanted. He had nothing to say, nor had much to say ab…

I've been saying, to anyone who will listen, that: Pay kids to move to, or simply stay, in Kansas. After the kids get some relevant degrees, give them zero interest loans, new tractors, whatever. I really don't care what it costs. Simply redirect all those agricultural subsidies from corporations to families.

> Pay kids to move to, or simply stay, in Kansas. [...] give them zero interest loans, new tractors, whatever.

Direct incentives like this usually get gamed or don't work. I prefer the Georgist approach, working with, not against market forces. Make all land speculation fully unprofitable by taxation, and make all returns from labor and capital (i.e. wages, interest, and non-rent profit) free from taxation or rent. Use the difference to fund a citizen's dividend.

> Simply redirect all those agricultural subsidies from corporations to families.

Absolutely, all direct subsidies must go, but let's not replace them with other subsidies. A Georgist system would replace all rentier subsidies with a labor and capital friendly free market.

Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by bboylen »

mjfl wrote: post #44
t8e56vd4ih wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's also my impression after reading his book on psychedelics. interesting and eloquent but also shallow and generic.

This is why I'm afraid to do drugs. I'm worried that it will do something to my brain so that I'm impressed by shallow experiences.

I wish I was more impressed by all the shallow, mundane experiences in my day to day life

Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by fzzzy »

mjfl wrote: post #44
t8e56vd4ih wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's also my impression after reading his book on psychedelics. interesting and eloquent but also shallow and generic.

This is why I'm afraid to do drugs. I'm worried that it will do something to my brain so that I'm impressed by shallow experiences.

lol. your everyday experiences are the ones that are shallow

Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by edge17 »

svat wrote: post #26

Summary: - In 1997, Michael Pollan wrote an essay, a section of which was originally "about making opium tea from his home-grown poppies and drinking the tea". He had some "fear that the Drug Enforcement Administration would raid his house and seize his property" if this were published, as he thought it could be viewed as “taunting the government.” - The published version (available at https://www.wesjones.com/pollan…

This summary is longer than the article

Re: Regarding Michael Pollan’s New Book This Is Your Mind on Plants

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Post by fzzzy »

teknopaul wrote: post #39
IgorPartola wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Per NIH/NAS [1]: > Despite these changes in state policy and the increasing prevalence of cannabis use and its implications for population health, the federal government has not legalized cannabis and continues to enforce restrictive policies and regulations on research into the health harms or benefits of cannabis products that are available to consumers in a majority of states. As a result, research on the health e…

I live in Europe. There is plenty of work done on health risks of canabis. Smoking is strongly associated with lung cancer, yes weed too. That should not be surprising. If you think otherwise you are reading the wrong Internet. Smoking is also strongly associated with mental disorders. There is a lot of evidence. Huge numbers. If you smoke weed you _must_ have friends that's have had a bad one on weed at some point,…

You need mental help. Skunk definitely has less thc. High thc weed smells like cat piss, not skunk.
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