CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi • Hacker News Board

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

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Post by arthurcolle » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

Can't you always just go to 10.0.0.1?

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

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Post by gsich » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

wyldfire wrote: post #27

Seems like the DHCPACK message and/or router advertisement could/should have a reference to the URI that has policy/billing form that's required to utilize a gateway. That way we don't need a special magical service that expects to be redirected to the policy form. AFAICT each OS/distro seems to solve this their own way currently, with their own service. Does any such standard feature already exist?

There are some RFC7710 and 8910 come to mind.

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

#43

Post by ipv6ipv4 » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

I wish captive WiFi sign in pages would just go away. They hinder usability while providing no value to anyone.

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

#44

Post by c0nsumer » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

I own and maintain dingleberrypie.com and maintain it as a non-HTTPS site for exactly this reason.

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

#45

Post by lxe » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 5:55 PM UTC

I go to 1.1.1.1

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

#46

Post by jonny_eh » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 5:58 PM UTC

Don't most OSes include a mechanism to visit a non-SSL site automatically?

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

#47

Post by pantalaimon » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

jonny_eh wrote: post #46

Don't most OSes include a mechanism to visit a non-SSL site automatically?

fails to work often enough

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

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Post by irq-1 » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:03 PM UTC

franze wrote: post #4

Similar to http://neverssl.com/ I guess?

I have "HTTPS-Only Mode" on in FF, and it connects HTTPS to CoffeeShopWifi.com but not to http://neverssl.com

Most people won't have HTTPS-Only Mode on, and those that do probably understand the issue, but if FF changes settings in the future this could be a problem.

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

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Post by jastr » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:06 PM UTC

Lt_Riza_Hawkeye wrote: post #26

jacobwil wrote: post #11

My favorite version of this trend remains http://alwayshttp.com because https://alwayshttp.com doesn't work since alwayshttp.com:443 doesn't connect. On the other hand, it's possible to reach https://coffeeshopwifi.com and (with a cloudfront certificate error) https://neverssl.com which makes me wonder if something in whatever I'm using is trying to upgrade to HTTPS when I fail to reach them.

Huh, I don't even get a certificate error on https://coffeeshopwifi.com/ - and I got automatically upgraded (I guess due to https everywhere) haha

Browser extensions will redirect HTTP to HTTPS as the request is made, so CoffeeShopWifi can't help you there.

Most sites will send a redirect to HTTPS, which CoffeeShopWifi does not.

So I decided it's safe to make a cert and support HTTPS.

Re: CoffeeShopWifi.com – An HTTP website for connecting to guest WiFi

#50

Post by zacharycohn » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:19 PM UTC

I always use lolwut.com for this