Are there safe havens ? Switzerland for example ?
European Parliament approves mass surveillance of private communication
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#42Would any email provider protect me from this, get my emails actually delivered and ideally work with my own domain? Not that I see myself switching after 15 years and 6 Gmail accounts but if I am to I'd rather know who I'd use. And no I won't risk setting it up myself and risk missing on some portion of my emails like I've had happen at workplaces before we'd sigh and switch to Google. For Chat tg/signal seem like t…
If you want your email reliably encrypted, encrypt it yourself. GPG works the same regardless of the provider.
Only if you assume that the only valuable thing in your communications is the content, which is simply not true. Metadata, who is speaking to whom and when, is incredibly valuable as a surveillance tool.
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#43Well bye bye European tech industry. Why the hell would anyone want to do business with such a risk in place?
I'm not in the EU, but I'd exit any jurisdiction that implements this.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but how sustainable is the EU really, in the long term? I’m still convinced it will either dissolve or devolve into a rump organization within my lifetime.
Well, I'm assuming that's one of the things that total pervasive surveillance and control of communication is meant to address.
Seems like acting with that intent with this power is an easy way to accelerate the EU’s own dissolution.
The Warsaw Pact, the Cold War, the Iron Curtain across Europe and the Berlin Wall, as well as the communist surveillance States that still-living Europeans lived within and remember well enough was not that long ago.
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#47this is the only place where this can be found. Would love to know more from someone perhaps a little bit less involved.
I couldn't find anything else either: When I do a shallow google search for "EU mass surveillance", I find articles referring to a loophole in AI rules for mass surveillance and some articles stating that mass surveillance can only be for national security - and the most recent is in April.
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#48Would any email provider protect me from this, get my emails actually delivered and ideally work with my own domain? Not that I see myself switching after 15 years and 6 Gmail accounts but if I am to I'd rather know who I'd use. And no I won't risk setting it up myself and risk missing on some portion of my emails like I've had happen at workplaces before we'd sigh and switch to Google. For Chat tg/signal seem like t…
If you want your email reliably encrypted, encrypt it yourself. GPG works the same regardless of the provider.
and I guess that using GPG will instantly flag you as suspect :-(
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#49I think it's the establishment, i.e. the old wealthy families who run things, are very concerned with the migrants crisis and the real possibility to lose control.
I'm partial to blaming the lizard people as, being lizard people, they don't have feelings.
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#50Are there safe havens ? Switzerland for example ?
Yes, Switzerland, one of the (already) most corrupt places...