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Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#42
I make 10,000 RMB per month (about $1550 USD) at a start-up in Beijing. On one hand I feel certain I could earn more in the US, but on the other hand it might be harder to get a job at a start-up as someone entering the field from the arts with a relatively modest tech background.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

#43

Here in Brazil, I get paid approximately 11k brazillian reais.. Translating to U.S. dollars that would be 7k. These numbers are really impressive to me.

I think you're confused... salaries in Brazil are monthly... US salaries are generally quoted yearly... And differences are even more confusing for comparison because, beyond multiplying by 12 and converting to dollars, you need to remember that in Brazil you get a 13th salary as well, an extra 1/3 salary during your vacation month, the money put into your FGTS, and sometimes other benefits as well. In the US you don…

Nope, I not confused. Im CLT employed and you're right about FGTS.. But I don't have any benefits where I work, and the local employers don't get much better than this. A 'nice' salary in my town would get me somewhere around 21k dollars yearly.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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If you look at how salaries are distributed across the US public, the 60k - 100k category is way too large while 151k-200k should probably be just one range and not two. As someone who hires programmers, I am much more interested in how many people make between 60-70, 70-85, and 85-100.

Unevenly sized buckets give weird data anyways. How would you show it on a graph? The buckets should be uniform, except for catch-alls at the ends, then you choose how to display them afterwards.

> How would you show it on a graph?

A relative frequency density histogram

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we do that then we would be trusting that tool, which doesn't look right to me. (I don't think that SF is 138% more expensive than Miami, FL.) Let's put whatever we make, knowing that it's just an approximation. By the way, I'd rather live in an expensive city making proportionally more money, because my savings would also be proportionally larger, and when you're buying a plane ticket to Europe online or a pair o…

I live in San Francisco and it is probably 138% more expensive than Miami, FL. A cheapo 1br in the city runs around $1200 a month. Nice places cost $1500-2500 a month. I'm paying $2k a month myself but it's a really nice place w a Golden Gate Bridge, Alcatraz, and city view. How much are places in Miami?

As someone that moved to the bay area from Miami 6 years ago 138% sounds about right to me. Comparing apples to apples you would need to compare Biscayne, Coconut Grove, Coral Gables in Miami to SF. Those neighborhoods are $1,000 to $2,000 a month.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Quite interesting. In Germany or Europe very very few programmers would make more than 100k USD (around 70k EUR) unless he is in some position where he leads a team or oversees bigger projects. Then i see how cheap cars and computer hardware etc is in the US and i really start to wonder where this massive difference comes from. US engineers seem to earn way more and generally pay much less for many things. Apple hard…

We work many more hours and we have to pay more for benefits like health care. Most other medical costs are higher here too; drugs are a lot more expensive in the US than the rest of the world, because the drug companies fold the research and testing costs into our prices, and only include manufacturing and distribution costs in the rest of the world's pricing.

Cars might be cheaper here, and gas certainly is, but we use a lot more of both than Europeans because we tend to be spread out a lot more. That's another factor raising our cost of living, which drives up the salaries we demand.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Again, this doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense without location data. I'm voting with my salary adjusted to San Francisco levels by using the following adjustment tool: http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ I'd recommend that people do the same so we can remove a substantial source of noise from this poll and actually get a meaningful distribution.

If you ever need to run a poll with location data -- please feel free to use my site: http://gopollgo.com -- we give awesome reports and location data all free of charge.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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If you look at how salaries are distributed across the US public, the 60k - 100k category is way too large while 151k-200k should probably be just one range and not two. As someone who hires programmers, I am much more interested in how many people make between 60-70, 70-85, and 85-100.

I think it adds value but I have also created a richer survey here ( https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey... ) The raw anonymous results will be shared on HN in a few days w/analysis.

You might want to add "Technology/Industry" like Web Companies(FB,Twitter), App Companies(Built on Top of FB, Twitter), Mobile Companies, Networking (Cisco, Juniper), DB/related (Oracle), OS(Apple, MSFT).

I "get" the feeling that programmers in Web technologies get paid less than people in hardware/appliance companies like Cisco, Juniper, NetApp etc.

Edit: Just noticed the Industry Option :)

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