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Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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This is some remarkably long-term planning: "If construction goes ahead as planned, the majority of the foundations for the island off Denmark's capital should be in place by 2035, with an aim to fully complete the project by 2070." I can't recall ever seeing the year 2070 or later in print, in the context of some definite project or plan. Are there other examples?

Not quite the same, as it’s already completed, but John Malkovich made a film with Robert Rodriguez that won’t be released until 2115. 100 Years is an upcoming experimental science fiction film written by John Malkovich and directed by Robert Rodriguez. Advertised in 2015 with the tagline "The Movie You Will Never See", it is due to be released on November 18, 2115. The 100-year span matches the time it takes for a b…

That's just pomp and show business though. I think the ancients were very long term planners. One of the upsides to a regime with very centralized and absolute power. Great wall of China, Pyramids of Giza to name some.

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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The photo in the article is labeled, "The port of Copenhagen, where the artificial island Lynetteholm is planned to be built, as it is today", but fails to mention that the picture is of Trekroner Fort, itself an artificial island built on sunken warships from 1713:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekroner_Fort

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

#43
post #27

> The approval by Denmark's parliament paves the way for the 1 sq mile (2.6 sq km) project to begin later this year. That's not a giant island.

A square mile is pretty big, especially for an artificial island. It’s 640 acres (or something like 2,400 suburban homes). Sure it’s not the size of Japan or something, but it’s not tiny.

The Dutch artificial island 'Flevopolder' is ~970 square km. So, I wouldn't say giant when there is an artificial island that has a 373x larger surface area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flevopolder

It is still a very nice project nonetheless!

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

#44

This is some remarkably long-term planning: "If construction goes ahead as planned, the majority of the foundations for the island off Denmark's capital should be in place by 2035, with an aim to fully complete the project by 2070." I can't recall ever seeing the year 2070 or later in print, in the context of some definite project or plan. Are there other examples?

That’s true. California has projects that have true timelines like that but there are usually lies about completion dates.

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

#45
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite the same, as it’s already completed, but John Malkovich made a film with Robert Rodriguez that won’t be released until 2115. 100 Years is an upcoming experimental science fiction film written by John Malkovich and directed by Robert Rodriguez. Advertised in 2015 with the tagline "The Movie You Will Never See", it is due to be released on November 18, 2115. The 100-year span matches the time it takes for a b…

That's just pomp and show business though. I think the ancients were very long term planners. One of the upsides to a regime with very centralized and absolute power. Great wall of China, Pyramids of Giza to name some.

On that note, if you are interested in the complexities of building a multi-generational structure, I really recommend Kafka’s short story, The Great Wall of China. It is not about the actual historical wall, as far as I know, but it uses it as an example to make some genius insights about human society and psychology.

http://www.kafka-online.info/the-great-wall-of-china.html

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

#46

> A case against the development of Lynetteholm has been brought before the European Court of Justice by environmental groups. I’m always a little surprised that the most wild and natural parts of world (the flyover country) is populated by anti environmentalists (or rather, libertarians typically), and the most densely populated cities devoid of most green things tend to have clusters of environmentalists. Don’t the…

The absolutely worst thing a human being can do to nature is move into it XD

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

#47

> A case against the development of Lynetteholm has been brought before the European Court of Justice by environmental groups. I’m always a little surprised that the most wild and natural parts of world (the flyover country) is populated by anti environmentalists (or rather, libertarians typically), and the most densely populated cities devoid of most green things tend to have clusters of environmentalists. Don’t the…

This case has nothing to do with urbanism but has to do with how the environmental impact of the project is measured. Put simply, despite planning and projecting the entire project, the environmental impact is done piece by piece. This vastly understated the environmental impact in the harbor and Øresund. This approach is what is being challenged, since it obviously disregards big picture thinking.

Also, many people are fed up with construction noise due to the metro being expanded.

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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post #37

> A case against the development of Lynetteholm has been brought before the European Court of Justice by environmental groups. I’m always a little surprised that the most wild and natural parts of world (the flyover country) is populated by anti environmentalists (or rather, libertarians typically), and the most densely populated cities devoid of most green things tend to have clusters of environmentalists. Don’t the…

Most of those environmentalists, strong though their convictions may be, wouldn't give up almond milk lattes, organic fusion sushi, constant social media, fast reliable internet, and all the other trappings of cosmopolitan hipster life, at least not for more than a few days.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/259/257/342...

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A square mile is pretty big, especially for an artificial island. It’s 640 acres (or something like 2,400 suburban homes). Sure it’s not the size of Japan or something, but it’s not tiny.

The Dutch artificial island 'Flevopolder' is ~970 square km. So, I wouldn't say giant when there is an artificial island that has a 373x larger surface area. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flevopolder It is still a very nice project nonetheless!

Even IJburg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IJburg) is 2.2km^2.

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

#50

My knee jerk reaction to this was “Why build an island when the glaciers are melting and the global sea level is rising?” but then I looked into it and by 2100 the average rise will be about 0.3m. Just dredge up more mud and you should be good! https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...

Global sea level rise also doesn't affect all places equally. Northern Europe is expected to be below average for sea level rise. https://www.climatecentral.org/news/ice-melt-means-uneven-se...

Yes, sue nature for 4 times more tidal range than the 0.3m cited due to climate change. If you can handle the tide, you should just need to allocate bit more space to shore.
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