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Firefox Release 89.0

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by ddek »

userbinator wrote: post #28
kevincox wrote: post #10

Does anyone feel that this new UI brings notable improvement? I don't think it is much worse, other than taking some extra vertical space but for the most part my reaction is "meh". I feel like these resources could have been spent much better in other parts of the browser. Am I missing some reason why this is worth the investment?

Because "designers". I'm absolutely sick of this trend of dumbing-down lowest-common-denominator UI, removing useful features and affordances for learning. Insanely huge buttons, rounded corners everywhere, floating controls in a sea-of-white/blackspace... On the bright side, I believe the UI is still highly customisable so it should be possible to make it look exactly as you want, but it's not exactly straightforwar…

I think I'll throw a fit when my 'tabs-on-the-bottom' css inevitably stops working. Why? I don't know. It's not notably better, it's just I like having the top of the content at the top of the screen. But it uses the most legacy of firefox's legacy features, so I can't see it staying around forever.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by Vinnl »

idbehold wrote: post #25
apetresc wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that case, install the Tree Style Tabs[1] extension, disable the tab bar altogether, and get back 100% of it :) [1]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... EDIT: Ah, looks like capableweb beat me to it by a fraction of a minute!

How do you disable the tab bar?

See https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery/wiki/Firefox-Styles-Snipp....

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by dTal »

capableweb wrote: post #7
rwaksmunski wrote: post #5

How do I get the old style of tabs back? I need every vertical pixel I can get.

> How do I get the old style of tabs back? Don't know but: > I need every vertical pixel I can get. If this is really important to you (as it is for me), try Tree Style Tab ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... ). First just installed it to move the tabs to the side, but now I gotten so used to tabs in a logical tree that anything else is a big hassle to use.

This is the same order of improvement over plain tabs, that tabs were over 1-page-per-window. All browsers should come with this by default, and the fact that they don't is proof to me that UI innovation is stagnating.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by secfirstmd »

justinph wrote: post #18
toomanyducks wrote: post #12

I bounce between qutebrowser, brave, and firefox - could anyone who exclusively uses ff convince me to switch? I've always viewed ff as a solid fine out of ten, and would be interested in hearing more about any unique and cool features.

Multi-account containers are awesome: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers Also good to keep non-chrome browsers alive.

Containers probably the main reason to stay with FF as a Chrome alternative

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by stuff4ben »

Torwald wrote: post #19

Still can't use it. The tabs have the close button on the wrong side, for me as a Mac user. And yes, this is a serious issue. So far Opera and Vivaldi got it right. Brave and Firefox lack behind here.

Is it really? I have so many tabs open at once, it's just a slight move to the right to close a tab. But then I usually close my tabs with Command+W anyways.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by rbx »

Setting browser.compactmode.show to true in about:config allows for setting density to compact again. But unfortunately the padding around bookmark entries remains huge.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by unethical_ban »

toomanyducks wrote: post #12

I bounce between qutebrowser, brave, and firefox - could anyone who exclusively uses ff convince me to switch? I've always viewed ff as a solid fine out of ten, and would be interested in hearing more about any unique and cool features.

* Not Google * Multi-Account Containers (a bit of a power-user tool, but great for isolation)

Frankly, that's all I have now. You can't customize the UI like you used to, the extension marketplace for FF and Chrome are pretty much parity, and the speed of FF (and Chrome) is great. I think they're both power hungry, though.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by walterlb »

_Microft wrote: post #27

Anyone remembers these old Win 95-era programs that faked tabs and tab panes by having a number of buttons in a row and switching the content of the pane below? The new tab bar certainly gives off these vibes. :/

They apparently have re-implemented tabs using some sort of tab-by-wire system, since the physical tab-to-content connection is now missing :)

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by peteretep »

kevincox wrote: post #10

Does anyone feel that this new UI brings notable improvement? I don't think it is much worse, other than taking some extra vertical space but for the most part my reaction is "meh". I feel like these resources could have been spent much better in other parts of the browser. Am I missing some reason why this is worth the investment?

It's much better when you use it than when you look at the pictures, imho

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by dTal »

konart wrote: post #32
capableweb wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do I get the old style of tabs back? Don't know but: > I need every vertical pixel I can get. If this is really important to you (as it is for me), try Tree Style Tab ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... ). First just installed it to move the tabs to the side, but now I gotten so used to tabs in a logical tree that anything else is a big hassle to use.

Or https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/ as an alternative.

Interesting. How is it better?
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