Whenever I read articles like this, I get more and more horrified. I mean, I know that adtech spy on us a lot, but I didn't knew for example that using Bluetooth while the app is shut down was possible. Makes me very wary even of dumbphones, for example I bought a dumbphone recently, and yet it came with Facebook and Google Assistant both pre-installed.
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Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business
#42Whenever I read articles like this, I get more and more horrified. I mean, I know that adtech spy on us a lot, but I didn't knew for example that using Bluetooth while the app is shut down was possible. Makes me very wary even of dumbphones, for example I bought a dumbphone recently, and yet it came with Facebook and Google Assistant both pre-installed.
How did you think for example notifications were pushed to Bluetooth smart watches?
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#43Whenever I read articles like this, I get more and more horrified. I mean, I know that adtech spy on us a lot, but I didn't knew for example that using Bluetooth while the app is shut down was possible. Makes me very wary even of dumbphones, for example I bought a dumbphone recently, and yet it came with Facebook and Google Assistant both pre-installed.
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#44Why can't governments make tracking illegal? These companies that manipulate population into buying products they don't want or need are the mythical "broken window". Nobody mention how all this online business contributes to global warming. Factories produce useless products, that need to be stored, delivered, disposed of...
However, governments (at least some) are trying; GDPR is a step in that direction, but it has ovious associated difficulties have been discussed here in HN for years; California is moving in with similar laws, so there is a trend, but it will take years for it to get anywhere. I'd guess that EU will make "GDPR v2" (however that will be called) with severe restrictions on tracking by 2025 or so.
Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business
#45Why can't governments make tracking illegal? These companies that manipulate population into buying products they don't want or need are the mythical "broken window". Nobody mention how all this online business contributes to global warming. Factories produce useless products, that need to be stored, delivered, disposed of...
Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business
#46Facebook still knows lots of stuff about your location. You have recently liked a business nearby. You're in a Facebook group about your area, etc
Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business
#47Corporate warfare in the internet age. Interesting to see how Apple and Google can materially impact FB.
This is a win win for Google, slow down competition and give the illusion of privacy to users.
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#48So we basically are seeing that google was "right" from their point of view in securing a mobile OS. Facebook maybe thought this day would never arrive and could have avoided that by doing their own mobile OS too. Well, maybe they declared this battle as lost and focused on the next one: VR. Problem is that VR took too long to arrive and death on mobile can kill Facebook?
Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business
#49Facebook still knows lots of stuff about your location. You have recently liked a business nearby. You're in a Facebook group about your area, etc
Re: Google’s new popup will further weaken Facebook’s advertisement business
#50The value of the location based tracking is overrated. Anyway, if you post an image to Facebook, Instagram or WhatsApp, the EXIF data has your location, or it can be solved from the content of the image.