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Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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And people wonder why I still don't trust Micro$oft, even if they say they're supporting open source.

I don’t think this is really related. Google supports open source & they do basically the same sort of stuff. Open source at this point is just common sense. It’s more profitable than a fully proprietary model in many cases.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Why would anyone even use windows at this point? This has always been the default operating mode for Microsoft. If you are still signing up for it after 30 years or whatever, I can't say I have much sympathy for you.

Game support is unparalleled, probably (partly) because you can use 10-20 year old design primitives and fully expect it to work on Windows for the foreseeable future (well, ARM desktop machines might be coming, so we'll see if that causes some pain in the industry).

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Windows 7 is a fine OS if you don't connect it to the Internet, but it's basically screaming "hack me" everywhere you go online. A few occasional mild annoyances from the marketing team is worth tolerating for a reasonably secure operating system. I'd argue people who feel otherwise need to reprioritize their risks.

Genuinely interested, why would Win7 be worse than Win10 if you had the same network setup, same browser (same extensions) and behaved the same as you do with Win10? I ask as even at home, my different devices all use the same browser/extensions, VPN and browsing habits. I use established FOSS where possible and the only problems I have had since Windows 98 are from data breaches (nothing I could have prevented with…

All sorts of security features in the browser only work on newer operating systems:

Hardware-enforced Stack Protection: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-this-new-feature...

Significant improvements to ASLR starting in Windows 8: https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2013/12/11/software-defense-...

And many more things. New Windows releases aren't just coats of paint.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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The more revenue from Windows goes down the more they’re going to push stuff like this (& gather and sell user data) I know this is what everyone says as soon as Win10 is mentioned, but if Win7 still had security updates I never would’ve “upgraded”

I moved on to linux and use windows 10 sparinngly on a different image to watch netflix. I removed all the features, registry hive, autoupdates and all that, disabled Cortana, Im pretty sure I castrated the thing. And as soon as Im done with whatever I need it for I shut it down. Works out quite well like this. When I think of people who just accept all that from MS I feel a bit sorry for them but since they don’t seem to mind why would I?

I regret having wasted so many years on windows. All knowledge gained on Linux compounds quite well. On windows, forget about it. All the proprietary convoluted obfuscated software is not dev friendly at all unless you embrace working for corps for the rest of your life

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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My favorite is how when you right-click some highlighted text in Edge, before the "Search the web for this" button, is an additional "Search Bing for this" button. I'm sure the product designer's thought was, "Maybe they just forgot how excellent Bing is, and they will decide to click this Bing button, rather than using the non-Bing search engine they explicitly configured before!" And not "Let's trap some accidental…

Oh this is diabolical IMO. I just tested it to understand what's happening. Below "search the web", there is always a "search in sidebar" option. "Sidebar" basically splits your window and loads your search in the new pane. I assume this is some custom webview, but it looks very, very similar to a new window/tab. The kicker: only Bing search can be loaded in the sidebar. So when you change your default search engine…

Surprisingly, when I tried Edge this feature was really useful. Of course it would be better if they asked me which search engine should pop up. But given Edge is too far from dominant market position, I don't see what legal recourse one could suggest to force the choice unless you entirely ban cross-promotion and product bundling.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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I also have sporadic advertisements on my start bar (when I press the win key), sometimes it suggests an app, which looks just like any other app, the only difference is a "SUGGESTED" header which is easy to miss. I assume when you click on that, it opens the store app.

It appears at the very top and AFAIK there's no way to disable it.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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LTSC is the answer (despite what MS "advocates" will tell you) no autoreboot, no MS store, no onedrive, no ads I've had a legitimate copy on my gaming pc for 18 months now without issue aliexpress has an excellent range of grey market keys...

Why use LTSC over, say, Pro? Genuinely curious. I have been running 16299 on Pro since about when it came out. I would be running win2k if drivers, etc were updated for it.

LTSC is designed for the most conservative of customers, who don't want ANY funny business on their operating systems.

It's technically possible to tweak pro such that it's mostly the same thing, but LTSC comes that way out of the box, fully supported by Microsoft, and that's not going to change because they don't want to lose these lucrative enterprise customers.

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