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Life after an internet mob attack

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Re: Life after an internet mob attack

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post #4

This is why your identity online should never be traceable back to your real name. It's a pretty scorched-earth opinion on privacy, but the internet ultimately doesn't change if you use an alias. If you do so, employers will come back empty-handed when they try Googling you, and they'll have a harder time finding "that dumb Twitter post" that jeopardizes your job. None of this is to say that you should be a bad perso…

It doesn't matter, man. The donglegate dudes were IRL cancelled.

EDIT: What? You don't need to be online. Other people can put you online. Whether or not Donglegate was legitimate, clearly the mechanism exists.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

#43
post #24

There are a lot of talks on HN about the toxicity of social media. And people are pretty angry against Google and Facebook. But to me the worse is by far Twitter. There are plenty of random people who have a disproportionate number of followers compared to the quality of their posts. And as a result can do these kind of mods. Which are amplified by retweets, something that barely exists in other social media. Random…

I agree, Twitter is the most destructive of the lot. It drives mob behavior and low quality interaction like nothing else.

It doesn't get as much scrutiny in the press though, because it's the home of journalists.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

#44
post #24

There are a lot of talks on HN about the toxicity of social media. And people are pretty angry against Google and Facebook. But to me the worse is by far Twitter. There are plenty of random people who have a disproportionate number of followers compared to the quality of their posts. And as a result can do these kind of mods. Which are amplified by retweets, something that barely exists in other social media. Random…

>Random people can have too much power.

So the common persons voice should be rate limited? Only those 'qualified' should be able to have a larger impact?

Who makes the rules in this situation?

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

#46
post #3

The best solution here is to completely disconnect from social media or (at most) have an incredibly sanitized presence. Unless your job or livelihood revolves around needing to engage with a random internet audience (i.e. you're an influencer, entertainer, etc.) stay away from having a public persona on Twitter/Facebook/etc. The only community I interact with candidly tends to be this one. I don't post on Twitter, F…

I get my dopamine from Instagram. But I'm on Facebook because it is a unique source of connections and information and the anti-social media crowd seems unwilling to acknowledge this. I certainly understand if some people don't see Facebook that way. Maybe they don't have a need for certain niche communities or they don't care about keeping in loose touch with far flung friends and family. But I have found tremendous value in those things. That's fine if you don't, but at least acknowledge that many people do and simply saying "quit Facebook" doesn't help those people. And the problems persist.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

#47
post #3

The best solution here is to completely disconnect from social media or (at most) have an incredibly sanitized presence. Unless your job or livelihood revolves around needing to engage with a random internet audience (i.e. you're an influencer, entertainer, etc.) stay away from having a public persona on Twitter/Facebook/etc. The only community I interact with candidly tends to be this one. I don't post on Twitter, F…

I think rejection from society at large is a fundamental human problem. We went from literal witch hunts to figurative ones, but the concept and human psychology has more or less always been the same.

The graph of meaningful human relationships is always going to be small and consist only of bidirectional edges. It's a road to accepting that and forging self-worth based on the people you know and care about, and who know and care about you, not the people who will never know you let alone care about you.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

#48
post #4

This is why your identity online should never be traceable back to your real name. It's a pretty scorched-earth opinion on privacy, but the internet ultimately doesn't change if you use an alias. If you do so, employers will come back empty-handed when they try Googling you, and they'll have a harder time finding "that dumb Twitter post" that jeopardizes your job. None of this is to say that you should be a bad perso…

This is sometimes easier said than done. I've always tried to keep my social media presence far away from my real name, but a few years back I went to a job interview and one of the first questions they asked me was about my Twitch channel.

I didn't have any major following, it's mostly just a couple of friends and I will start a stream so my buddies can watch and we can chat about the game. We had been doing that for an hour or so before my interview just to calm my nerves a bit and kill time. My interviewers were watching that stream.

Anyways, it was pretty shocking to have the interviewer just straight up admit they dug me up, in detail. I felt pretty invaded. To their credit (or perhaps mine) they didn't feel any of my online activity was troubling. I did the interview, was offered the job and turned it down even though I was unemployed and pretty broke. I didn't feel comfortable working for them.

To this day I don't really know how they dug me up. I tried it afterwards myself and I couldn't. As a result I dialed my online presence back quite a bit. I am semi-active here but almost nowhere else. I don't really stream anymore.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

#49
post #8

A relevant TED Talk I always think of when reading about these stories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAIP6fI0NAI Which makes me think: who are these people with enough time of their hands to be morality warriors on internet? Also who are these _friends_ who jumps on conclusion without allowing for a defense? I shouldn't be difficult, in this digitalized world, to provide solid proof of wrongdoing. I may not be the…

> Which makes me think: who are these people with enough time of their hands to be morality warriors on internet?

Maybe young people? I know that when I was younger (around high school) and more active on twitter, I supported everything progressive because I thought it was the right thing to do, without looking too much into the facts. Fortunately I never had a bigger reach than a few dozen of people with the same ideas as me, and never directly attacked people or insulted them or anything, but I wonder if it's because of virtue or just that I'm more shy than most people.

I'm glad I grew up and don't do this kind of thing anymore, but I can't say I don't understand why people would do this. Maybe education about this would help? But on the other hand voices that says "there are two sides to every stories" often get drowned in righteous fury, and I'm not sure I would have listened to them.

Re: Life after an internet mob attack

#50
post #35
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OP has a huge Twitter presence (600k+ followers), He has 16k followers https://twitter.com/pasql

Oops, mea culpa . I mistook another screenshot in his post to be his own account. Yeah, 16k isn't that much; pretty sad.

> isn't that much

16 thousand people follow him. That's way more than enough to be considered a 'public person'

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