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“Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Post by rasengan »

greyface- wrote: post #34
rasengan wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi this is Andrew from the post and freenode. Long story short, former staff were upset about a logo but the logos were there since the start. I wanted to share that. Secondly, staff claim there was a hostile takeover. I have owned freenode for years and was a great custodian as far as I can tell (only compliments from former staff some of which even flew into defcon and came to my house on my dime, internationally)…

Hi Andrew, thanks for participating in the comments here. Will you consider disclosing the terms under which you purchased freenode? PDFs of executed documents, ideally?

That information is confidential in nature. That said tomaw has seen it and has handed freenode back over if that helps to understand what it’s content may have.

I really apologize for the inconvenience.

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Post by rcdwealth »

mam3 wrote: post #31

with all that i still don't know what freenode is lol

It is IRC network, people who like free software chat there freely and help each other, it is like support for anything related to free software projects. See here:https://freenode.net/ and connect by using IRC chat client.

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Post by SquibblesRedux »

rjbwork wrote: post #3
SquibblesRedux wrote: post #2

This link initiates a download.

It's a PDF. Firefox just displays it in the browser with no download prompt.

I did some troubleshooting to see why the original link did not behave as expected.

The original link:

    https://github.com/freenode/web-7.0/raw/main/static/files/on-freenode.pdf
redirects to here:

    https://raw.githubusercontent.com/freenode/web-7.0/main/static/files/on-freenode.pdf
and this command:

    curl -v https://raw.githubusercontent.com/freenode/web-7.0/main/static/files/on-freenode.pdf 2>&1 | less
reveals:

    content-type: application/octet-stream
The application/octet-stream is for "Any kind of binary data," suggesting the correct browser behavior would be to download. To inform the browser that the document is a viewable PDF, a web server normally sends an application/pdf MIME type. [1] The "raw" in the original link is why GitHub thinks the file should be treated as a generic binary.

While this may all seem much ado about nothing and pedantic, I often see this kind of behavior exploited in the wild to deliver malicious payloads. In this case I would say Firefox behaves "safer" than Chrome, but not not necessarily more correctly.

[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Basics_of_...

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Post by greyface- »

rasengan wrote: post #41
greyface- wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Andrew, thanks for participating in the comments here. Will you consider disclosing the terms under which you purchased freenode? PDFs of executed documents, ideally?

That information is confidential in nature. That said tomaw has seen it and has handed freenode back over if that helps to understand what it’s content may have. I really apologize for the inconvenience.

What are the terms of the confidentiality agreement? Who would need to sign off on terminating the confidentiality agreement, and would you consider doing so in order to help the public understand what's going on?

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Post by tremon »

ryanmentor wrote: post #37

This just muddies the waters further. Let's get concrete: What assets does Freenode have, and who legally owns them?

That question will not help you get clear answers. First ask: what constitutes the entity "Freenode"? Its trademark? Its domain name? Its servers? Its server-side management code? Its operational processes? Its bylaws? Its staff?

Once that part of your question is clear, you can ask which part owns which assets.

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Post by hhvn »

tapoxi wrote: post #27
rasengan wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi this is Andrew from the post and freenode. Long story short, former staff were upset about a logo but the logos were there since the start. I wanted to share that. Secondly, staff claim there was a hostile takeover. I have owned freenode for years and was a great custodian as far as I can tell (only compliments from former staff some of which even flew into defcon and came to my house on my dime, internationally)…

From what I've read it seems like you generally seem to have Freenode's interests at heart, but this seems like a complete communication failure. Most channels I've been a part of have moved to Libera Chat, so I don't think Freenode in its current form can recover from this. Maybe you should consider incorporating it as a nonprofit and potentially a technology switch to Matrix? It would be nice to have a homeserver t…

One of the main points of matrix is that every server should be compatible and form a federation with others. What is the point of moving people onto a specific server?

With IRC freenode has a control structure that can enforce their rules/guidelines, this breaks with matrix.

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