F150 is the best selling vehicle in America. The price is actually comparable to the gas version. This might be the vehicle that really changes the EV game.
2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
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#42I have no idea if this’ll be lightning or a lead balloon, because a significant amount of pickup truck buyers do it for the machismo. Which sounds like some city-slicker talking down to the cheap seats, except, I grew up in a town named Farmington. (Go Farmers.) I know pickups. I know the people who drive pickups. My dad sneers at fancy new pickups because he used to shove a good 700 pounds of mink pelts in a pickup,…
Macho man and their egos like the fastest, toughest trucks with the most torque / power. This is it. It wins.
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#43Wow - so if the grid goes down the Truck will power your house? That is awesome!
ref: https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/ (see bottom)
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#44I guess the fact that's it's electric is a good step. But it seems insane to me that we don't do more to discourage massive consumption of what should be utility vehicles. I'm willing to be 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks.
> 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks
Yeah, I feel this. I used to have a big work truck, but it was for work. Everyone has a truck in my hometown (seemingly). Last week I saw a big F-250 super duty pull up and the dude that got out was in scrubs (a nurse).
Friends of mine have considered the super duty’s for towing, but now they’re interested in the lightning for the same reasons.
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#45It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.
…what a non sequitur.
The F-150 is already a bloated monstrosity, it makes no difference if it’s electric. It’s some tiny bit faster, but they’re all fast enough.
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#46It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.
Don't forget that electric vehicles are almost silent.
Not when moving at any significant speed - most of the sound of a vehicle going faster than 10mph ish is tires.
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#47The aspect I'm most curious about is towing range. I have a 5000lb travel trailer that I tow about 200km away a few times a year. I'm pretty sure I'd be out of luck with a vehicle like this. It has the ability to pull the trailer with ease, but most preliminary estimates are that range would be two digits with that sort of load. In my current vehicle I do stop for gas midway, but it would be an entirely different sit…
Cut the advertised range in half. That is about the max you can expect for towing range. So the extended range version may let you tow the distance you want to.
Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
#48It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.
>Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling.
I think more worrisome is the center console - pedestrian deaths had been going down for 20 years until smartphones became widespread and we've had increases every year since.
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#49The aspect I'm most curious about is towing range. I have a 5000lb travel trailer that I tow about 200km away a few times a year. I'm pretty sure I'd be out of luck with a vehicle like this. It has the ability to pull the trailer with ease, but most preliminary estimates are that range would be two digits with that sort of load. In my current vehicle I do stop for gas midway, but it would be an entirely different sit…
The occasional heavy-duty trip is a reasonable use case for a range extender (as in, an IC engine gen-set) either towed or on the truck bed.
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#50I'm curious, with the advent of electric what's the advantage of a truck vs. a minivan for a lot of situations? IIRC there were literal space constraints before which is why a minivan couldn't tow like a truck, but since the motor and batteries sit underneath the car, couldn't one build a van/minivan with just as much power as this?
If that's the case, other than hauling very tall objects, why get a truck? A minivan with the 2nd and 3rd rows folded is already longer than most truck beds.
Curious to hear thoughts on this. I know culturally a van would never beat a truck, but I'm curious more mechanically/technically.
Another thing I'm curious about with a truck in particular is if a custom fit gasoline tank could be placed in the bed of a truck that has an inverter that could charge the car, so even if your battery was dead you could effectively use the car as a gas one, in a pinch.
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As an aside I'm willing to bet within a decade this will outsell the gasoline version. A F-150 used frequently requires a lot of maintenance. I imagine this will be significantly easier to maintain.