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Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by liquidise » Fri, May 21, 2021, 3:54 AM UTC

Happy to see Sublime still enjoying major version releases; i say this as a religious Textmate 2 user. Monocultures are rarely good for innovation and these projects monetizing in a sustainable way is a tide that raises all boats.

Also, a few comments here are asking versions of "What does Sublime have that $MY_EDITOR doesn't?" For many the answer is simply "experience". The idea of swapping off of TM2 for me is daunting because of the sheer number of keyboard shortcuts i've memorized. Most i don't even know by heart but rather by hand position.

How feature-rich an editor is should be less important than how feature-complete your understanding/usage is.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by woodruffw » Fri, May 21, 2021, 3:55 AM UTC

bigyikes wrote: post #16

I was a Sublime user, then Atom, and now I’m a VS Code user. In 2021, what reasons are there to use Sublime over VS Code? Performance is the only one that comes to mind, but there are surely others... right?

I've tried to make the switch from Sublime to VS Code a few times, and a few things consistently hang me up:

* Performance, like you mentioned. I've very used to opening hundreds of megabytes of line-delimited data in my editor; anything that can't keep up with that immediately ruins my "tempo."

* I don't really understand how to customize VS Code's UI. It has a lot of little toolbars and widget panels that I don't want (I have everything except for the edit buffer on Sublime removed), but I can't find any obvious way to permanently remove them. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough.

* This one is largely my fault: 10+ years of Sublime Text have broken my brain, and VS Code's default bindings are just different enough to cause me significant annoyance. I'm sure I could spend a couple of hours fixing them, but I'll admit that the thought gives me pause.

On the other hand, I really like VS Code's session sharing feature (other than the shared undo/redo buffer). I'd love to see a version of that for Sublime!

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by muststopmyths » Fri, May 21, 2021, 3:55 AM UTC

Anyone know of a good vi plugin for sublime ?

The last time I tried, all the plugins were significantly laggy and while nvim was functionally complete, it had this annoying behavior of switching out of insert mode if sublime lost focus. Apparently that's by design too.

Sublime itself was super snappy though. unfortunately a good vi/vim mode is a requirement for me.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by mknapper1 » Fri, May 21, 2021, 3:55 AM UTC

I really wish that Sublime would add an integrated terminal panel. None of the packages I’ve tried that do add a terminal view, work the way the way I want them to. It’s really the one feature that’s holding me back from even trying to switch away from VS Code.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 21, 2021, 3:55 AM UTC

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Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by ryanmcbride » Fri, May 21, 2021, 3:58 AM UTC

Sublime Text is the only editor I use outside of vim. It's worth every penny.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by devoutsalsa » Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:02 AM UTC

Does Sublime have good support for Vue.js, specifically code formatting? I briefly looked a while back and all the plugins seemed ancient.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by nkozyra » Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:02 AM UTC

contriban wrote: post #39

FredPret wrote: post #4

I like how I started years ago by saying “Notepad sucks, let me try Notepad++ and Sublime Text”. Now it’s almost an IDE, but still a great text editor!

I find it hard to believe anyone would use Notepad past the “wow I can edit this HTML file” phase. I found PSPad years before I started working.

Note the "years ago" part. Options were limited for non terminal free/cheap options for a long time.

Wiki says PSPad came out in 2001, I'd guess this experience predated that.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by rococode » Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:02 AM UTC

SavantIdiot wrote: post #40

I feel bad using VSCode after years of supporting Sublime (by purchasing a license). However the one case where I do use sublime repeatedly? When I need to open an editor QUICKLY. It boots faster than VSCode, and frankly, it finally broke me of my constant habit of VIMming now that I have it on my mac, win and linux boxes. I am eager to try V4, but I'm so deep in VSCode now, I don't know if I can find my way out! I c…

To me, VSCode competes with IDEs, Sublime competes with text editors. Startup speed accounts for a solid 95% of that distinction. If I need to make a quick edit to a file or write down a temporary (but reasonably persistent) note, the only tools I've tried that let me do that in less than 3 seconds are Sublime, Notepad, and Notepad++. Among those choices, Sublime is the clear winner in overall usefulness and functionality.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by smnrchrds » Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:02 AM UTC

CraftThatBlock wrote: post #6

twelvechairs wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isnt it just a simple subscription model with a 3 year term?

I think this implies that after 3 year, you can keep using whatever is the last version you were using. It's basically license to get what you have right + any versions in the next 3 year. JetBrains also has a similar license for yearly subscriptions, where you can keep using whatever version was supported at the end of the license.

> whatever version was supported at the end of the license

No. The version you will perpetually have access to is the last version released one year before the expiry of your license. So if you get a one-year license and don't renew it, you only retain access to the version you first bought, not any new ones released during the year.