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Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by zepearl »

tpmx wrote: post #20

Opera is beyond rescue. As someone who spent a decade working there it saddens me to say so, but please don't use it. Actual, executive day-to-day control over the browser tech has progressed sort of like this: 1995: Oslo, Norway 2008: Linköping, Sweden 2014: Wrocław, Poland 2020: Beijing, PRC (the sale happened in 2016, but they were hands-off for quite some time; I think they were being busy with shady fintech stuf…

I like a lot Opera on my phone & tablet. (but not on my notebooks & PCs - using there Firefox & Chrome)

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by bastawhiz »

baby wrote: post #13
bastawhiz wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably you need to pay every time you want to update where the domain points, no? https://docs.unstoppabledomains.com/domain-registry-essentia... From the docs it seems like you can "hardcode" IPs or...a traditional dns cname. At $40/domain, if you update your DNS records once every two years, you're really only just breaking even. Also, from the FAQ: > Trademark holders with proof of ownership can apply to claim…

You shouldn't have to pay much though, it's should simply be a transaction on the Ethereum network. If whoever set up that contract wants to take a fee, then it's up to people to use another contract.

The average ethereum transaction fee right now is more expensive than a domain renewal fee for many common TLDs.

Right now, the original purchase price of one of these domains is ~4 years of fees on a traditional registrar. Let's round the transaction fee down to $10 for the sake of simplicity. If you update your configuration every two years (which seems generous), you'll break even in...six years? And that's assuming whoever made the contract doesn't take a fee.

This assumes Ethereum fees don't change. Proof of stake might affect transaction cost, but the trend right now is up and to the right: in one year the average transaction cost has increased two orders of magnitude.

If we assume the rate of growth of the average transaction fee slows dramatically to one order of magnitude every two years for the next few years, that means the cost of your domain will probably never break even (over a traditional domain) in your lifetime. Even if it only doubles every two years, you'll likely never break even.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by kenniskrag »

hadcomplained wrote: post #22
baby wrote: post #10

Domain name/identity and key pinning has always been the only useful use of NFTs that I can think of. Today, to encrypt your communications with people, you use something like PGP or Signal which rely on "trust on first use (TOFU) but verify", in practice people don't really verify so it's more like TOFU. This means that if someone compromised the session at the moment where it was created (or re-created), then your…

> Today, to encrypt your communication to websites, you use HTTPS which rely on a vast network of certificate authorities. This fact has been irritating me for a long time. Because no one should believe that every single certificate authority is tolerant to any attempts to steal the private keys. But that is exactly the underlying assumption behind HTTPS being the only way to use HTTP in a more secure manner than exc…

Can't you pin the cert (http pinning)? Can we pin a CA cert of one CA? Can we add to dns which CA is allowed to issue certs for this domain like which ip is allowed to send emails?

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by twobitshifter »

fs111 wrote: post #3

So we need blockchain because google controls the emails of his kids that he has set up. What? If you want you data to be safe, then host your data yourself and make backups. Yet another "we had a blockchain and did not know what to do with it" solution that nobody needs. I think I lost IQ points reading this nonsense.

If you want to host your own data, it sounds like you need opera unite! https://news.softpedia.com/news/Download-Opera-10-10-Final-w...

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by sergiotapia »

nly wrote: post #27
tpmx wrote: post #20

Opera is beyond rescue. As someone who spent a decade working there it saddens me to say so, but please don't use it. Actual, executive day-to-day control over the browser tech has progressed sort of like this: 1995: Oslo, Norway 2008: Linköping, Sweden 2014: Wrocław, Poland 2020: Beijing, PRC (the sale happened in 2016, but they were hands-off for quite some time; I think they were being busy with shady fintech stuf…

It was dead to me the moment they switched to chromium

I also miss Presto and Dragonfly

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by ziml77 »

imiric wrote: post #33
walrus01 wrote: post #11

People have been trying to make alternate-root DNS systems a thing for 20+ years, it has never caught on.

Blockchain technology only became popular in the last decade and, as much as it has become a meme at this point, DNS is actually one of the best use cases for it. The current DNS is distributed, but highly centralized, and paying renewal fees for keeping a record in a file and a server running feels like extortion. An immutable, consistent and decentralized storage system solves those issues, and I can pay once and t…

How does the name get reclaimed when you lose the key or die? Do we just accept that it's possible for domain names to be forever unusable?

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by johtso »

zepearl wrote: post #41
tpmx wrote: post #20

Opera is beyond rescue. As someone who spent a decade working there it saddens me to say so, but please don't use it. Actual, executive day-to-day control over the browser tech has progressed sort of like this: 1995: Oslo, Norway 2008: Linköping, Sweden 2014: Wrocław, Poland 2020: Beijing, PRC (the sale happened in 2016, but they were hands-off for quite some time; I think they were being busy with shady fintech stuf…

I like a lot Opera on my phone & tablet. (but not on my notebooks & PCs - using there Firefox & Chrome)

Same, it's the only mobile browser I've found that has decent dark mode..

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by cbarrick »

tpmx wrote: post #20

Opera is beyond rescue. As someone who spent a decade working there it saddens me to say so, but please don't use it. Actual, executive day-to-day control over the browser tech has progressed sort of like this: 1995: Oslo, Norway 2008: Linköping, Sweden 2014: Wrocław, Poland 2020: Beijing, PRC (the sale happened in 2016, but they were hands-off for quite some time; I think they were being busy with shady fintech stuf…

Any specific reasons to not use Opera?

I actually just switched this week, being fed up with Firefox. So far so good. I very much like the UI/UX.

I hope this isn't just another case of "China bad".

Edit: Ah, I see the link you added. So the new owners seem shady.

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