Any opinion on the move to BTRFS as the default filesystem? Would it be a transparent change for the user? Obviously it will only apply to fresh installs.
Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
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Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting...my personal daily driver is on fedora 32,and i was going to go to fedora 33 first...but it seems that you skipped 33? If so, curious why? Was it a sort of "who cares, let's do it", or is there a reason that i should skip 33, etc.??
Unless you want to use 33 then I'd just jump right over to 34. My general purpose Fedora PC has made the two version jump a couple of times in the past without a jelly trouser moment.
> jelly trouser moment
Thank you! I now have a new phrase to use! lol :-D
Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
#43They managed to increase the distance the mouse cursor has to travel to open the app drawer. The worst case would be to move the cursor to the upper left and then to the bottom right. Does Red Hat monitor the mouse travel distance to measure "employee productivity," or how did they end up with this design?
Just learned that double tapping the Super button opens the app drawer. game changer for me
Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting...my personal daily driver is on fedora 32,and i was going to go to fedora 33 first...but it seems that you skipped 33? If so, curious why? Was it a sort of "who cares, let's do it", or is there a reason that i should skip 33, etc.??
I keep using F32 because it still supported until F34 out and skip F33 because too lazy, nothing technical. Just do it and let see what happen :). Make sure 100% your backup working
Very, very tempting! Well, i do have my backups in place...so, what better way to test out my restoration process then to skip a major version and dive into the latest, newest release-which-has-not-been-tested-too-long, eh? :-)
Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
#45Any opinion on the move to BTRFS as the default filesystem? Would it be a transparent change for the user? Obviously it will only apply to fresh installs.
I moved to BTRFS two years ago, before it became the default. It is transparent.
Pros: Fast copies with "cp --reflink" and "btrfs sub snapshot" is great, but this is for power users. I personally do backups by snapshotting my home/ directory, and using restic to backup from the snapshot.
Cons: On my very old hard drive, BTRFS creates a huge performance hit. (No perceptible difference on my NVMe SSD) For virtualization, btrfs file system on qcow2 images stored on brtfs are no bueno. Since all my servers use BTRFS and I use some of its features heavily, I need my VMs to use BTRFS so that I can test my automation. I cheat by using "chattr +C" and raw images.
Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
#46I've been an Ubuntu user for ages, any reasons to switch to Fedora?
Vanilla gnome, more up-to-date software, package management with dnf is superior than apt. You don't have to have snaps shoved down your throat (but you can still use them if you like). Fedora is a "makers" distro. Every big innovation in Linux has happened in Fedora first.
I dislike snaps too, but when I used Fedora for a couple of years (around version 25), I didn't like dnf a lot either. It felt very slow in comparison to apt, and also, it was just another new command to learn, after yum et al. In contrast, I've been using the same apt syntax in Debian or Ubuntu installs for two decades now. To me, having the same tool with no breaking changes for ages is a plus.
Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
#47Still on Fedora 30... probably time to reformat and install fresh.
Really wish Fedora would cut an official WSL2 image.
Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vanilla gnome, more up-to-date software, package management with dnf is superior than apt. You don't have to have snaps shoved down your throat (but you can still use them if you like). Fedora is a "makers" distro. Every big innovation in Linux has happened in Fedora first.
For me, not being forced into snaps, which for many apps that are forced upon us through snaps makes them remarkably slow, is enough reason to pick Fedora over Ubuntu for a fresh install. But whether it’s a good enough reason to switch an existing system depends on how much trouble one is having with these issues in their current system.
Is snap actually being forced on users by Ubuntu? I've used a Ubuntu based os for years, the only snap packages i have are third-party ones directly from the app devs themselves, ubuntu's never forced me to use snap...
Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
#49Still on Fedora 30... probably time to reformat and install fresh. Really wish Fedora would cut an official WSL2 image.
It’s always nice starting from a fresh install. But if you’re worried about things breaking during a 30-34 upgrade, i’d suggest doing a backup of your system and trying it out. I’ve been extremely impressed with how flawlessly fedora pulls off dist upgrades in the past.
Re: Fedora Linux 34 is officially here
#50Still on Fedora 30... probably time to reformat and install fresh. Really wish Fedora would cut an official WSL2 image.
It’s always nice starting from a fresh install. But if you’re worried about things breaking during a 30-34 upgrade, i’d suggest doing a backup of your system and trying it out. I’ve been extremely impressed with how flawlessly fedora pulls off dist upgrades in the past.
Generally my big fear is the interaction with the kernel and Nvidia drivers during update... I've been burned a few times on that.