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Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by ianai » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:34 PM UTC

kepler1 wrote: post #28

Friends, tell me how I should be more positive or community minded in thinking about this. Because right now, I say -- "anyone who doesn't want a vaccine, well you live with the consequences and if you can't come to rational understanding that it's your own life being saved, then I shed no tears over your choice". People who do it out of religious (or Republican) dogma, I'm not sympathetic. People who believe in cons…

It’s not just about saving the life of the person being vaccinated. It’s about not giving the virus anymore “fuel” to burn through. Every infection is a roll of many dice. Statistically at some point someone’s mutation will overcome even the vaccines we’ve made. If that spreads we’d be back in February of 2020.

Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by standardUser » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:34 PM UTC

HarryHirsch wrote: post #39

Steltek wrote: post #29

It's a good day to be a Masshole. According to the spreadsheet, MA is least hesitant by state and together with VT, sweeps the first 14 counties (and the first 19, if you ignore SF).

Meanwhile case numbers on Boston, as determined by sewage surveillance, are holding steady: https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm What's going on?

MA has about 30% of people fully vaccinated. In Israel, the rate of new cases cratered once that number hit close to 50% and has stayed extremely low ever since (despite reopenings and the rate of new vaccinations there slowing to a crawl).

Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by h2odragon » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:34 PM UTC

"Hesitancy" nice word. The implication that everyone does want this vaccine is nice; after all, not wanting it would be some sort of mental defect right?

"My body, my choice" ain't just a political slogan; it makes sense. I'm glad these vaccines are available, but I had this crud early and I'll pass on the vaccine thx.

Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by ojbyrne » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:34 PM UTC

Steltek wrote: post #29

It's a good day to be a Masshole. According to the spreadsheet, MA is least hesitant by state and together with VT, sweeps the first 14 counties (and the first 19, if you ignore SF).

The least hesitant 30 counties basically seem to be MA, VT and the entire Bay Area.

Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by rubidium » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:35 PM UTC

jwineinger wrote: post #38

The contrast of the Dakotas to Minnesota indicates to me the impact of state leadership / communication.

They are vastly different in the urban areas. Agreed on the rural.

Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by giantg2 » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

losingmyjob wrote: post #25

darkwizard42 wrote: post #2

This is a pretty interesting map/graph. I also like that they linked to the data in table form. Not really surprised at the areas that are darkest, but still feel worried that lots of areas near 20%. Specifically the levels of non-Hispanic Black hesitancy in the South is really rough. Hopefully over time this improves especially as private enterprises put some pressure on getting vaccinated

> Hopefully over time this improves especially as private enterprises put some pressure on getting vaccinated I really hope I don't lose my job because I don't want to take an experimental, unapproved vaccine for a disease that hospitalizes less than 5% of people across all age groups when I work from home, am a healthy weight, and am under forty. The risk for me is, in fact, comparable to the flu, and the vaccine ha…

"the refusal of the drug company lawyers to accept liability if something is wrong"

In theory the government is supposed to provide a settlement under the countermeasure version of the national vaccine injury compensation fund. I say in theory because the system doesn't work as well as it's marketed to (based on personal experience).

Also, I'm not sure why you are being downvoted. Maybe just an unpopular opinion or the inflammatory remark? I'm of a similar opinion. I don't go anywhere except the food store, have an N95 mask (owned prior to the pandemic), work from home, under 35 with no comorbidities, only elderly I have contact with are family who have already recieved their vaccinations. If they are saying that this might be an annual vaccine and I fit low risk profiles for attributes and actions, then I might as well wait until I'm forced to go back to the office to get it.

Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by Steltek » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #36

Steltek wrote: post #29

It's a good day to be a Masshole. According to the spreadsheet, MA is least hesitant by state and together with VT, sweeps the first 14 counties (and the first 19, if you ignore SF).

They got vaccinated so quickly because such a large fraction of them needed to do so as a condition of employment. Healthcare is a massive industry in MA.

Not even close to true. Demand is so high here, MA was only able to offer vaccines to the general public starting this week. If you were lucky enough to even be eligible last week, you needed to use bots to find an appointment.

Compare that to Texas, where shots are going begging at freaking Walmart. It's extremely infuriating. MA's vaccination rate is solely limited by available doses and meanwhile vaccines are expiring unused on the shelf in other states. We could have hit herd immunity by now if we were given the chance.

Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by stirlo » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

HarryHirsch wrote: post #39

Steltek wrote: post #29

It's a good day to be a Masshole. According to the spreadsheet, MA is least hesitant by state and together with VT, sweeps the first 14 counties (and the first 19, if you ignore SF).

Meanwhile case numbers on Boston, as determined by sewage surveillance, are holding steady: https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm What's going on?

Sewerage isn’t particularly accurate. Australian cities have been Covid free for the last 6 months yet there are continual reports of virus in the sewerage. It seems some recovered cases shed the virus for months after the infectious period.

Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by Lammy » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

troelsSteegin wrote: post #31

This is the survey question, as part of a broader Household Pulse Survey: “Once a vaccine to prevent COVID-19 is available to you, would you…get a vaccine?” No mention of a follow up for rationale. via https://data.cdc.gov/stories/s/Vaccine-Hesitancy-for-COVID-1...

Thanks for sharing. That seems like a divisive question to begin with since people then get to argue about what “prevent” means.

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Post by giantg2 » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:39 PM UTC

abootstrapper wrote: post #30

standardUser wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The risk for me is, in fact..." In fact, the risk for you is that you infect someone you care about and they end up hospitalized or dead. That is a very real risk that has played out countless times during this pandemic and has cost thousands and thousands of lives.

It’s been over a year of explaining this to people. OP is a lost cause.

It's been way longer than a year for that concept. This concept has been around for other diseases, secondhand smoke, reckless/drunk driving, etc. Different people accept it to varying degrees, usually based on topic and personal beliefs.