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Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#41
I wonder if there's a significant alternative to the current audio system in Ubuntu 20.04 -- PulseAudio+ALSA are awful? For a year now, I've suffered with the most frustrating breakdowns getting sound to pump out of the right interface without causing my machine to burn 200 watts to "compute" something. I love Linux, I love Ubuntu, I use it everywhere, but this little daily-frustration quietly drives me back to my increasingly closed macbook.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#42

Holy crud, I can just straight up join this to my domain? This is world-changing. There is a GPO template. I think I'm in love.

I'm not real familiar with this stuff but I could've sworn that linux has been able to join Active Directory domains via samba for a long time.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#43
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It's interesting to see Wayland enabled by default. I'm curious to know what state Wayland is in nowadays, especially regarding how well it works with Nvidia cards. The last time I tried it out was around 2017ish when Fedora enabled it by default. It was 100% not ready then as it wouldn't even boot into the desktop with my nvidia card. Is it actually ready now? Does it work with nvidia cards? Does GPU acceleration wo…

From what I understand after briefly looking into this earlier this month the issue seems to be basically NVIDIA want to push their own buffer API (EGLStreams) rather than use the buffer API developers are actually using (GBM).

If you use one of the "big" compositors like GNOME or KDE I believe they have sort of added EGLStreams support so you can use it on NVIDIA but it's not perfect. If you use a more niche one, e.g sway, then it won't work on the NVIDIA proprietary drivers because they don't support GBM.

There is some news recently that NVIDIA may be coming around and are in the progress of implementing GBM support in their drivers, but it's not confirmed.

You can also use the nouveau nvidia drivers but from what I understand the performance is trash in 3d applications using modern cards, it seems more orientated to supporting older nvidia cards.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#44
post #11

It's interesting to see Wayland enabled by default. I'm curious to know what state Wayland is in nowadays, especially regarding how well it works with Nvidia cards. The last time I tried it out was around 2017ish when Fedora enabled it by default. It was 100% not ready then as it wouldn't even boot into the desktop with my nvidia card. Is it actually ready now? Does it work with nvidia cards? Does GPU acceleration wo…

I've been using Wayland for over a year now without any big problems. I even use fractional scaling (which causes XWayland screens to be blurry) but most of my applications run natively anyway, so it's not a big deal.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#45
post #29
post #11

It's interesting to see Wayland enabled by default. I'm curious to know what state Wayland is in nowadays, especially regarding how well it works with Nvidia cards. The last time I tried it out was around 2017ish when Fedora enabled it by default. It was 100% not ready then as it wouldn't even boot into the desktop with my nvidia card. Is it actually ready now? Does it work with nvidia cards? Does GPU acceleration wo…

Depends a lot on the compositor. I've been running on Sway for about half a year. It's 99% perfect — the only thing I'm missing is smooth high-DPI scaling for XWayland windows . Note, smooth high-DPI scaling is good for Wayland programs – I'm just talking about that one piece of software that I use that still needs X (Emacs). Before christmas I played around with Plasma on Wayland. It mostly works, but there were som…

>still needs X (Emacs)

With luck, this problem will soon be solved from the opposite direction:

https://lwn.net/Articles/843896/

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

XWayland support on NVIDIA should be coming later this year: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-G... Additionally, NVIDIA seems to be putting a lot of effort into overall Wayland support (yay!): https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-4... Hopefully, by next year, Wayland on NVIDIA should be "fully" supported. It's slow progress, but it is moving forward.

So it sounds like folks with Nvidia cards should hold off on this version of Ubuntu?

No, I guess Ubuntu will just boot to X11 on a system that Wayland is unsupported.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#47

Whait what? ..and a Flutter application development SDK??

Flutter is the default dev stack for Ubuntu desktop apps these days: native speed without the memory boat of Electron (among other advantages).

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#48
post #41

I wonder if there's a significant alternative to the current audio system in Ubuntu 20.04 -- PulseAudio+ALSA are awful? For a year now, I've suffered with the most frustrating breakdowns getting sound to pump out of the right interface without causing my machine to burn 200 watts to "compute" something. I love Linux, I love Ubuntu, I use it everywhere, but this little daily-frustration quietly drives me back to my in…

PipeWire looks like it's shaping up to be an excellent spiritual successor to (and unification of) both PulseAudio and JACK:

https://pipewire.org/

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PipeWire

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#49

> Firefox, OBS Studio and many applications built with Electron and Flutter take advantage of Wayland automatically, for smoother graphics and better fractional scaling. I think it's great that Firefox is bundled with Ubuntu, but I have to manually update Firefox each time a new release comes out because the version that's installed is a canonical-controlled version that stays 'stuck' on a old version and doesn't hav…

> I have to manually update Firefox each time a new release comes out because the version that's installed is a canonical-controlled version that stays 'stuck' on a old version and doesn't have an auto-update mechanism. Doesn't Snap solve this?

Yes, but only if you submit your code to Snapcraft. There's no way to host your own repository.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#50

I tried Wayland on 20.10 a few month ago and concluded it wasn't ready for daily use. The worst thing is that it would RANDOMLY cause Gnome to restart while closing all my applications. Also the cursor was jumpy and laggy sometimes (especially when opening context menus). Is anyone aware if these issues still happen?

>The worst thing is that it would RANDOMLY cause Gnome to restart while closing all my applications.

Question: Is this a GNOME architecture issue? I hope KDE could avoid this issues, atm on Xorg I can restart the window manager and the desktop shell without losing any data.

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