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Americans overwhelmingly say marijuana should be legal

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Re: Americans overwhelmingly say marijuana should be legal

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The biggest change I noticed with respect to legalization is that it used to be the case that you couldn't walk around the streets of downtown Seattle without being offered weed by street vendors, and sometimes other drugs. After legalization and marijuana stores the street vendors (at least those I encountered) basically disappeared.

That is not a good reason I think. It sounds like we should legalize something because we already have no control of it.

Re: Americans overwhelmingly say marijuana should be legal

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Oddly, Biden is a bigger holdout against full legalization than Congress. >Biden’s blunt opposition to marijuana legalization https://www.vox.com/22387746/biden-marijuana-weed-legalizati...

Funny enough in this case how Kamala Harris feels might be more important, since she'll likely cast the deciding vote in the Senate. I can't see Biden vetoing the legalization bill if it passes both chambers, regardless of his personal views.

Re: Americans overwhelmingly say marijuana should be legal

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Majority of Americans support Medicare for All. But both parties are against it. Marijuana legalization is easier to pass than healthcare because there are no entrenched corporate interests against it: https://morningconsult.com/2021/03/24/medicare-for-all-publi...

Majority of Americans do NOT support Medicare for All. Please reread your article - they want a public option, which differs from Medicare.

I think a lot of Americans want neither.

Re: Americans overwhelmingly say marijuana should be legal

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I've supported legalization efforts in two states. But I kindof have regrets, now. And in fact, if I were in charge, I might leave it as an infraction. I don't really want it to be illegal, but as far as I can tell, the same thing that happens to cigarette smokers happens to weed smokers: perspective on the fact that smoking is the atmospheric equivalent of peeing in the pool is lost. And I wake up like I did last ni…

You want weed to be illegal because you don't like the smell of the smoke?

It sounds more likely they would like it to be illegal for one to force others to be subject to second hand smoke.

Re: Americans overwhelmingly say marijuana should be legal

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majority support, and democrats have control of the three branches of government. what's the hold up in getting it legalized?

1. Senate filibuster rules

2. Having zero spare votes (there is usually at least one Democrat senator, like Manchin, opposed to everything)

Re: Americans overwhelmingly say marijuana should be legal

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I found myself wondering why we can’t just pass popular legislation as individual clean bills. In a climate where two thirds of Americans support a wealth tax, why not simply send a wealth tax to the Senate and see what happens?

The answer, unfortunately, lies in the many layers upon layers of ‘dealmaking’ that happens in congress that lead to popular bills being bundled with less popular ones. Combined with the trend of trying to pass everything through reconciliation, it means that we almost never get to see congress legislate individual issues.

That’s a shame. In software, we’d recognize this all-or-nothing approach as bad practice. It would be no surprise why nothing ever gets done, and we’d make a new process that favors incremental improvements.

Re: Americans overwhelmingly say marijuana should be legal

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I've supported legalization efforts in two states. But I kindof have regrets, now. And in fact, if I were in charge, I might leave it as an infraction. I don't really want it to be illegal, but as far as I can tell, the same thing that happens to cigarette smokers happens to weed smokers: perspective on the fact that smoking is the atmospheric equivalent of peeing in the pool is lost. And I wake up like I did last ni…

Is there another window in your house you can open so that the airflow comes in from the other side of the house?

Re: Americans overwhelmingly say marijuana should be legal

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I come to it from the view of prohibition being a known source of power for cartels. I suspect if the various prohibitions were relaxed enough (and safely) that cartels would lose a lot power. Could see less immigrants fleeing cartel violence? But I fear legalization too. I fear people taking it too far and forcing a backlash and a new prohibition.

They're not just smuggling Marijuana and that's assuming they're not already deeply entrenched in their localities.

Even in California, the cartel is still active in the grey market. As long as the legal option remains dramatically more expensive than grey market, and how couldn't it with sometimes a >30% tax rate, there will be a grey market.
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