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It's interesting to see how this speculative piece keeps popping up, whereas GCHQ's THREE YEAR long hack [1] of Belgium's largest ISP was largely ignored. China bashing is easier than Five-Eyes bashing? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Socialist
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How about the incidents described in this article: https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/mass-surveillance-and-bla...
The US is not tracking down and transporting all blacks to work camps to "reeducate them" with the data they collect. The CCP is doing this to their Uighur population. Do you not see the difference in extremes?
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I don't think the people complaining are the ones who chose to give root access to a company with known ties to a foreign government.
Then why do they spin it as if Huawei abused their access? Surely they could just make their opposition known without all the wink wink going on.
Additionally, it concludes that Dutch telecom act was violated by Huawei by being able to access the numbers being tapped by Dutch security services.
All statements in the original news article are backed up by the Capgemini report. Of course this report could be wrong, but then it's curious why KPN decided to keep this report a secret, apart from sharing the results with Dutch intelligence (AIVD).
Either way, I have a hard time seeing how any of this is 'spin'.
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You're tldr; is a bit wrong. They had unauthorized access, which means they used it. It's not clear for what currently, that's why it describes the scope of access. They also found that the application can tap entire phone calls, which was forbidden. Edit: What do you think the following means ( Dutch is my native tongue, lol): > ‘Ongecontroleerde en ongeautoriseerde toegang vanuit China heeft na 28 oktober 2009 daad…
Two things wrong. > They had unauthorized access No it doesn't >which means they used it Does it? As per HN regs, "The article mentions that."
The Capgemini report stated:
- They had accessed KPN's network without authorization and from China in 2009. They circumvented the default password policy from KPN
- They could have eavesdropped, because they had an application that enabled it, which was forbidden.
Also. The Dutch statement of KPN that the Guardian mentioned was not: "adding that none of its suppliers had “unauthorised, uncontrolled or unlimited access to our networks and systems”, as the article states.
The literal statement was ( in dutch):
> "Geen enkele leverancier van KPN heeft 'ongeautoriseerde, ongecontroleerde en ongelimiteerde' toegang tot de netwerken en systemen, of is in staat om KPN-klanten af te luisteren of tapinformatie in te zien."
Which is misleading, since it means: "Currently, no supplier has 'unauthorized and uncontrolled and unlimited' access to our networks and systems." This can be true, because they changed a lot because of the security audit that got leaked.
https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/huawei-kon-alle... ( google cache is possible if you want to translate it fyi)
PS. I'm a native dutch speaker. There's a whole discussion about the misleading statement from KPN here: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/180642/tweede-kamer-wil-opnieuw-...
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And it doesn't mean that they did.
Capgemini report states that unchecked and unauthorized from China happened after October 28 2009; as reported by the journalist that broke this news: https://twitter.com/huibmodderkolk/status/138335058865459200...
It's quite incredible really. We have undeniable proof the US spies on the EU, phone taps it's leaders, and uses the info to help US companies. But the stories are all about a Chinese company once having done a thing they were asked to do...
We do not have evidence the NSA is doing industrial espionage.
Moreover, this is Huawei, not technically 'the state' and it's about the fact they are related to the state - and - they've had incredible access as part of their normal operations which is questionable.
China is the most aggressive and active state sponsor of hacking and they 100% do it for purposes of industrial espionage.
Literally 'leaving the door open' to every phone in a nation to a state-backed entity seems unthinkable in 2021.
It's probably going to be best if everyone uses local carrier gear and consulting entities for this kind of work the advantage of 'totally free trade' doesn't seem to be more than what would be lost otherwise.
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The US is not tracking down and transporting all blacks to work camps to "reeducate them" with the data they collect. The CCP is doing this to their Uighur population. Do you not see the difference in extremes?
Hmm... so I guess the African Americans should be thankful that only some of them are being abused/oppressed by the government, that must be very comforting.
Only one superpower right now is committing GENOCIDE against it's ethnic minorities.
You can downplay that as much as you want, and spit all the whataboutism you want, but it's still the truth.
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Capgemini report states that unchecked and unauthorized from China happened after October 28 2009; as reported by the journalist that broke this news: https://twitter.com/huibmodderkolk/status/138335058865459200...
So if anyone accessed from China, it must be huawei? You do know China has 1.4B people. And hackers often use zombie machines to attack. But clearly didn't matter to you.
The audit was from 2009 and was an internal security audit that got leaked. It's specifically about Huawei.
It's interesting to see how this speculative piece keeps popping up, whereas GCHQ's THREE YEAR long hack [1] of Belgium's largest ISP was largely ignored. China bashing is easier than Five-Eyes bashing? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Socialist
How do you mean 'was largely ignored'? It was headline news for almost a year during the snowden period. It still is discussed occasionally and both us and uk are trusted less by eu countries because of it.
It's quite incredible really. We have undeniable proof the US spies on the EU, phone taps it's leaders, and uses the info to help US companies. But the stories are all about a Chinese company once having done a thing they were asked to do...
We know the US spies and so does China - this is not news. We do not have evidence the NSA is doing industrial espionage. Moreover, this is Huawei, not technically 'the state' and it's about the fact they are related to the state - and - they've had incredible access as part of their normal operations which is questionable. China is the most aggressive and active state sponsor of hacking and they 100% do it for purpo…
I agree about the ideal world solution being to only use home designed/produced tech. Sadly there are only a few companies on earth actually making this tech. For a long time the only company with a real 5G solution was Huawei. I'm as suspicious of the Chinese as the next rational human. I just think almost all telecoms infrastructure is compromised by the US, so its about picking the problem rather than avoiding it...
[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/25907502
[1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/xw3qjj/germany-accused-of-sp...