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Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Why is a third booster shot bad news? That seems like neutral news and possibly even good news since it means we have a solution to the problem. Edit: if you’re going to downvote this comment that’s fine but could you do me the courtesy of explaining why? I don’t understand what the flaw is in my reasoning and I am curious to understand it.

"Why should I get this shot instead of waiting for the one that works?" Do I really need to clarify that I am not the one asking this question?

The booster isn't because the first shot isn't working now. It will be required because your body will eventually forget how to fight COVID (you'll need three shots no matter when you start) or because new variants will pop up. Either way, your choice is "get the shots now and be safe for the intervening year, or get the two shots a year of non-protection later". The cost of getting another shot every year is nothing. I'd much rather get a shot every year than go a year without being protected.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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To be fair, most "news" of any sort on any topic is bad news.

If it bleeds it leads.

And if you find yourself depressed and all that, stop reading "the news."

There actually is good news in the world, but it is seldom found in "the news."

See also Don Henley's Dirty Laundry.

Kick 'em when they're up. Kick 'em when they're down.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Their wikipedia has a long list of incidents that I won't relist but it's not a straw man to discuss the credibility of a source.

Who edits wikipedia? There's some serious concerns there, by the co-founder of wikipedia. Basically, you can hire firms to edit wikipedia relatively easily and there's some extreme bias on anything even remotely political. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWQaVx5mGco

There are links at the bottom under References if you're interested in learning more about the context. Tim Poole and Project Veritas videos aren't going to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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That's a straw man argument. I wont necessarily dispute the axe to grind, but can you provide proof when "deceptive editing" occurred? Currently Project Veritas is in multiple lawsuits disputing that claim. Most recently, in Project Veritas vs New York Times, the NYT claimed their articles contain journalistic "opinions" without notifying readers. Meaning they made claims they can't back up: https://assets.ctfassets.…

> but can you provide proof when "deceptive editing" occurred? The Wikipedia page has plenty of examples and sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Content

I've reviewed this and none of them seem either (a) claim they are deceptive at all or (b) are proven deceptive. You also have to ignore the pending lawsuits (Project Veritas vs NYT) and the fact Project Veritas hasn't been successfully sued for defamation or anything like that.

Wikipedia itself is not a reputable source and frankly the examples don't actually show deception to the audience. I'll repeat what I asked someone else.

> Who edits wikipedia? There's some serious concerns there, by the co-founder of wikipedia. Basically, you can hire firms to edit wikipedia relatively easily and there's some extreme bias on anything even remotely political.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWQaVx5mGco

On the topic of deception...

The main "deception" I see is editing out sections of the video which had no bearing on the story. This is how all news is conducted.

One example labeled as a deception appears to be mentioning the thumbnail of a video:

> He framed the undercover recordings with a preface of him dressed in a "pimp" outfit, which he also wore in TV media interviews. This gave viewers, including the media, the impression that he had dressed that way when speaking to ACORN workers. However, he actually entered the ACORN offices in conservative street clothes (the sleeve of his dress shirt is visible on camera)

Does that change how the ACORN employees reacted? Is it better that they broke the law with him in different clothes (he also went to 6 different locations, dressed differently each time). This has no bearing on the story, because the ACORN employee(s) were still breaking the law - the point. The story was not about how they treated people differently based on attire.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Well, humans are more likely to be interested in bad news. As a survival strategy, that happens to be a good place to direct ones attention. Unfortunately for The News, our attention and so their source of income is getting harder and harder to come by. Given all that, and coupled with how entirely central and all-consuming Covid-19 has become as a topic the past year-and-a-half, these results shouldn't be all that shocking. I wonder how it might compare to any of the upcoming catastrophic or disruptive phenomenons of the 2020s.

Re: Why Is All Covid-19 News Bad News?

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Maybe, but ignore Vertias involvement and just concentrate on the raw footage they captured. You can't just fake a conversation like that without fearsome technology or maybe bribery.

> ignore Vertias involvement Sorry, no. They've tainted the well too much to do that.

I’m guessing you’re probably infinitely less critical of the standard ‘respected’ mainstream media.

‘Project Veritas Bad’ is a becoming an increasingly myopic heuristic. Probably something better would be to think that PV is complicated, and institutions have the potential to be seriously predatory and anti-social in the broadest sense.

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