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Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by scaladev »

ChrisSD wrote: post #16

The are a number of Windows settings for turning off what it calls "suggestions". Do a search in the Settings app for "suggest", click "Show all results" and see what comes up. Amongst them are: * Show suggestions occasionally in Start * Show suggestions in your timeline * Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows * Get tips, tricks and suggestions as you use Windows * Turn off sug…

Remember, you're paying money for this treatment. Reminds me of cable TV, honestly.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by notRobot »

Justsignedup wrote: post #37

Here's whats so odd here: - google can push chrome on people in their search results. and google pushed HARD. So hard they dominate the browser market and chrome is unfortunately not known for privacy. - google pretty much makes it impossible to get away from chrome entirely in android. Example being that you MUST use chrome webview when using the google search app. Even though everything else uses firefox for me. -…

"Google does this wrong thing so MS should be able to too!"

No, that's not how this works. If it's wrong, stop Google from doing it, instead of letting others do it too.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by moron4hire »

I've been using Edge's pinned web apps feature for quite a while now. I love it. I've got pinned "apps" for a number of different PaaS portals, a number of different API documentation sites, a couple of internal apps at work, SoundCloud, YouTube Music, Teamwork, Twitter, etc. It's about 50/50 web-apps vs native apps. It's pretty great.

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Post by supercanuck »

zdragnar wrote: post #15
whalesalad wrote: post #2

Apple gives an OS away for free - users never see advertisements. Microsoft charges $100 for Windows 10, virtually every corner of the experience is riddled with advertisements and marketing crap.

Apple's EULA prohibits you from installing their OS on anything but their own hardware- so they make their money there. Microsoft trying that would absolutely kill the company- either by lawsuit or people getting up in arms over anti-competitive behavior. They make a small amount every few years when you buy a new computer, and hope you'll also pay for their other software (or give them data, which is tantamount to t…

> ... so they make their money there.

Microsoft, literally, sells Windows 10... for money.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by inetknght »

jonatron wrote: post #34

I spent hours at the weekend making a windows 10 image with as much bloat disabled as possible. It looks like after just a few days, Microsoft have given me more stuff to remove. I only use it for gaming, so maybe my efforts would be better spent on getting games to work on Linux?

Most games work! Notably, if the game you're playing doesn't have an anti-cheat that's deeply tied to the kernel then there's a good chance it will work with Wine (or Steam Play's version of it) out of the box. The anti-cheats that are deeply tied to the Windows kernel are usually dumpster fires of remote code execution so I don't think there's much of a loss there.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by walton_simons »

ChrisSD wrote: post #16

The are a number of Windows settings for turning off what it calls "suggestions". Do a search in the Settings app for "suggest", click "Show all results" and see what comes up. Amongst them are: * Show suggestions occasionally in Start * Show suggestions in your timeline * Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows * Get tips, tricks and suggestions as you use Windows * Turn off sug…

Also consider this script if you're reinstalling Windows.

The fact that it needs to exist in the first place is itself a bit of an indictment of Windows 10, but running this during the Windows installation process will give you a nice, clean, non-animated desktop and start menu, with all of the shovelware and ads neatly excised and the privacy settings set to sensible values (admittedly for certain values of sensible, given that you can't disable all of the telemetry in most versions):

https://community.spiceworks.com/scripts/show/4378-windows-1...

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by nightski »

isoprophlex wrote: post #40
ChrisSD wrote: post #16

The are a number of Windows settings for turning off what it calls "suggestions". Do a search in the Settings app for "suggest", click "Show all results" and see what comes up. Amongst them are: * Show suggestions occasionally in Start * Show suggestions in your timeline * Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows * Get tips, tricks and suggestions as you use Windows * Turn off sug…

Imagine paying money for an os and having to go through this song and dance to not have your productivity tool become an ad infested unproductivity tool

I use it every day and tbh I haven't had to touch the settings in years. I never encounter this stuff.

And reading the article it explicitly says they will only show users this feature if edge is their default browser.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by dylan604 »

agloeregrets wrote: post #6
whalesalad wrote: post #2

Apple gives an OS away for free - users never see advertisements. Microsoft charges $100 for Windows 10, virtually every corner of the experience is riddled with advertisements and marketing crap.

I would argue that macOS does have some advertisements , mostly for Apple services, they just tend to be cleaner and better integrated. (Also the free bit is a little fuzzy as the costs are baked into the hardware.) Microsoft is far more guilty however. Imagine how nice Windows 10 would be if Microsoft didn't own Bing, Xbox, and Office.

>Imagine how nice Windows 10 would be if Microsoft didn't own Bing, Xbox, and Office.

Maybe I'm cynical, but if MS is adding ads to the OS that you paid for, then how much worse would it be if they didn't have these other platforms raising money to offset as well. I'm imagining your OS with a desktop that looks like a NASCAR car and driver's suit.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by inetknght »

agloeregrets wrote: post #12
Arigato wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's Bing in the recommendation lolol and MSN news feed too

That's my point, You don't pin Bing first however. After you pin the first set of sites it then shows the option to pin the search engine that does less than 5% of searches in the US. ;). My point here is that it pretends to be neutral and allows Reddit, Fb, and Youtube...But google is nowhere to be found.

I've been avoiding Google for a while. Its search results have become significantly less quality than DuckDuckGo -- which I hear is a rebranded Bing anyway.
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