Lulzsec Declares 'Operation Anti-Security' • Hacker News Board

Re: Lulzsec Declares 'Operation Anti-Security'

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Post by jokermatt999 » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 7:36 PM UTC

JonnieCache wrote: post #37

moondistance wrote: post #29

Why has http://lulzsecurity.com not been seized?

That is a very good point. Given that the DHS does domain seizures, and luzsec are explicitly attacking the USA, the non-seizure is very fishy.

Not really. The previous seizures were over copyright infringement/IP issues, rather than hacking. It's possible that the DHS (who were behind the seizures before, as Customs is a part of them) is working on it, but they likely don't have the necessary paperwork or process in place for "hacking sites" instead.

Re: Lulzsec Declares 'Operation Anti-Security'

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Post by AndyKelley » Mon, Jun 20, 2011, 7:46 PM UTC

aninteger wrote: post #33

itcmcgrath wrote: post #2

The short and sweet: Lulzsec is encouraging everyone to deface government websites with #AntiSec as well as in physical graffiti. 'Top priority is to steal and leak any classified government information, including email spools and documentation. Prime targets are banks and other high-ranking establishments'. Claims to have Anonymous on board. Does anyone else smell a less free Internet approaching closer?

How exactly do you think the internet would be "less free". Would there be fines/jail time for sql injection? Port scanning? Issuing DDOS attacks? I guess you'd have less freedom to do these things but most of these are against ISP TOS any way. Are you worried about an internet police state enforcing the rules? Make the punishment stiffer and/or secure your servers (not exactly possibly with DDOS) and these "problems…

One great example is DoHS shutting down gambling sites without due process.

Re: Lulzsec Declares 'Operation Anti-Security'

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Post by paulnelligan » Wed, Jun 22, 2011, 9:18 AM UTC

Spyplane wrote: post #32

paulnelligan wrote: post #21

I find this extremely worrying. Sure, I'm all for fighting the power, but a campaign like this could do a lot to damage our online freedom, e.g. the freedom to pay for things and conduct business online ... it would also result in governments limiting the internet in a way that they haven't done before, for a very long time ... that would really suck!

Not that this at all the same, or that I support what Lolzsec is doing, but I think there were a lot of African Americans at the start of the Civil Rights movement who didn't want people to speak up for fear of there being harsh consequences.

You're dead right, it's not at all the same ...