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Re: Archive Team: A Smattering of Tweets

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Post by jelsisi »

showerst wrote: post #36
snicksnak wrote: post #17

Of course this will get weaponized, if it isn't already. We've seen time and time again that a vile old tweet in the wrong hands can be very powerful, it's a ticking time bomb. Think 5 or even 10+ years down the road, some of the kids who are edgy on twitter today might go in to politics or hold some other high level position. I don't think the current climate is going to cool down anytime soon, but maybe something l…

I suspect that as a larger and larger percent of the population has a cringey internet past to look back on, the power of old tweets will fade somewhat. It'll take a while though, and of course depends on how vile the past actions are.

I feel like this is an optimistic take. I know a strong number of people that have never thought up a controversial opinion in their life. They will always have that power over the rest of us.

Re: Archive Team: A Smattering of Tweets

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Post by EvanAnderson »

kmfrk wrote: post #33

Datasets like these feel like a recording of every conversation in a coffee shop: technically public, but practically private for the most part. Feels super gross to see.

How has Twitter ever been "practically private"? We're talking about tweets-- not direct messages.

Re: Archive Team: A Smattering of Tweets

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Post by harperlee »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #26
mdoms wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an incredibly toxic way to think about conversation.

Thinking before I speak and having consideration for how my words might be interpreted in the future is "toxic"? Words you say to others have consequences. It makes sense to take that into consideration. That seems pragmatic and polite to me.

On one hand, that's true. On the other hand, 10 years down the road, all you have is 140 characters, and you lose the whole context in which something was written. You know, "Qu'on me donne 6 lignes écrites de la main du plus honnête homme, j'y trouverai de quoi le faire pendre" and all that.

Re: Archive Team: A Smattering of Tweets

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Post by themarkn »

offtop5 wrote: post #23
scandox wrote: post #15

Never tweet. It may be meant ironically but it's a really excellent piece of advice to keep in mind, even as you do in fact tweet.

Well said, I stopped using Reddit and Twitter because I realized a few things. First arguing with other angry people all day has never accomplished anything. Second no matter what you say, in 10 or 20 years it might be absurdly offensive and that can destroy your entire life. The dumbest thing you ever said at 19 is a part of your identity even when you're 42. But that only applies to the internet. If I said somethin…

It does seem like people ought to just think more about the permanence of what we put online and act accordingly. There is no way to guarantee ephemerality for anything you send to another person online. They can always record or whatever in some way. We have to act like this stuff is entered into the permanent record and be OK with that. There is nothing we can do to 100% prevent stuff being recorded somewhere.

I agree we’d all be better off not judged on our younger attempts at “edginess” and stuff we said while figuring out who we are in our teens. But at a certain point we have to accept that posting anything online anywhere is _publishing_ and if you _published_ a racist letter to the editor at 19, instead of said something offensive at a party, there is a different judgement there & it’s justified.

I do think in time the answer “I’ve grown a lot since that time and regret those tweets” is going to become more acceptable & people will be judged more on recent stuff they say and do.

Re: Archive Team: A Smattering of Tweets

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Post by temp8964 »

snicksnak wrote: post #17

Of course this will get weaponized, if it isn't already. We've seen time and time again that a vile old tweet in the wrong hands can be very powerful, it's a ticking time bomb. Think 5 or even 10+ years down the road, some of the kids who are edgy on twitter today might go in to politics or hold some other high level position. I don't think the current climate is going to cool down anytime soon, but maybe something l…

But the root of the problem is not the technology, it is the people and the culture.

I have no doubt, using tweets to cancel people is a deliberate tactic of the far left activists to win the culture war. And they are winning, a lot.

After a few more decades, cancel the First Amendment and put people in prison bc of wrong speech is not impossible. Right now the focus is race, gender, identity politics, but it can be easily switched to economic issues. Dark days are ahead of us.

Re: Archive Team: A Smattering of Tweets

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Post by showerst »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #26
mdoms wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an incredibly toxic way to think about conversation.

Thinking before I speak and having consideration for how my words might be interpreted in the future is "toxic"? Words you say to others have consequences. It makes sense to take that into consideration. That seems pragmatic and polite to me.

In this context, we're specifically talking about young people, who are _literally not yet wired_ to properly evaluate consequences. It doesn't mean they get a pass for anything, but surely at some point in your life you've said/done something that wouldn't pass with modern standards, particularly if it can be cherry picked to the word.

Re: Archive Team: A Smattering of Tweets

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Post by AzzieElbab »

snicksnak wrote: post #17

Of course this will get weaponized, if it isn't already. We've seen time and time again that a vile old tweet in the wrong hands can be very powerful, it's a ticking time bomb. Think 5 or even 10+ years down the road, some of the kids who are edgy on twitter today might go in to politics or hold some other high level position. I don't think the current climate is going to cool down anytime soon, but maybe something l…

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