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Re: Microsoft Coffee

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post #27

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People who do pranks like this don’t care how it negatively impacts on other people. Also think about all the additional work the PR people were forced to do to clean up.

Yes, those poor, poor Waggener Edstrom PR people. It's about time someone like you took a stand for them - they surely can't fend for themselves.

Creating a mess and leaving it to other people to clean it up. It's littering. Even if someone is paid to clean up your litter, you shouldn't litter in the first place.

Re: Microsoft Coffee

#42
post #34

Is there any reason to believe that this actually happened? Conveniently, it was published on April 1st. The story itself would be a great April Fools' prank. :)

Good point, an article on a news site should be required.

Simulacrum, simulacra, ...

Re: Microsoft Coffee

#44
post #20

It’s sad that a company can’t accept negative PR and show them that they do indeed support their employee’s actions. I think it has more to do with how all organizations want to feel professional instead of nerdy and fun.

It's hard for any company to support the actions of their employees once they go lone wolf and depart from the approvals and procedures the company has put in place. Even Bill wasn't happy with this and more importantly when it comes to April Fool's jokes, he wasn't laughing.

Just shows that he has no sense of humour. Humour isn't usually funny if it isn't pointing at legitimate criticism - in this case, it was making fun of Microsoft. Inability to laugh at yourself just makes you stuck up.

Re: Microsoft Coffee

#46

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I think it's deeper - and more insidious - than that. People with no sense of humor, or even awareness of their lack of sense of humor, have clawed their way into positions of real power. They used to just run the parent-teacher council and try to get TV shows cancelled, but now they've moved on to control nearly every aspect of our lives. And their power is growing.

Do you think this is any different than any time throughout history? There have always been and always will be people without senses of humor in all walks of life.

I don't know about the rest of history, but this is the first point in my lifetime where they've been in control of so many aspects of day-to-day life.

Re: Microsoft Coffee

#47
post #28

It’s sad that a company can’t accept negative PR and show them that they do indeed support their employee’s actions. I think it has more to do with how all organizations want to feel professional instead of nerdy and fun.

I'm not sure what employee actions they're supposed to support. MS didn't get a chance to 'support' this, these guys did the thing on their own. If I'm MS I'm not sure I want to do a lot to "support" them after the fact as I really don't need groups of other employees stocking the shelves with fake products... Any prank that looks like it has someone else's name on it, or approval... but isn't approved is just always…

"we didn't do this, but we suspect it was an employee. Either way, it's pretty funny."

Re: Microsoft Coffee

#48
post #8

Historical evidence that we’ve done all the good April Fools’ pranks, and we can just stop doing them now. Please. Please, I beg of you, PR teams, let us be free of corporate April Fools’ pranks. Make the world a better place.

I think companies can do fun stuff. But probably only if PR is not involved. I've seen lots of clever ideas (not just pranks) from the bottom by the people knowing the product being axed by risk-averse higher ups.

Re: Microsoft Coffee

#49
On Friday, 1-April-2005, I executed an Aprils fool joke inside of WalMart Stores, Inc., Information Systems Division that ended up going somewhat wrong.

The director of our area, Network Engineering, was widely liked, and I'd worked for him, first directly when he was a manager, since 1997. Pretty chill guy, great sense of humor, effective leader. I particularly liked him because he gave my team, Network Management, all kinds of 'air cover' from the rest of the division, which allowed us to do our work in very non-standard but extremely efficient ways.

He happened to be on a business trip to WalMart.com headquarters in California.

So I used telnet to connect to the SMTP port of our main Microsoft exchange servers and issued the necessary commands: HELO, RCPT TO, MAIL FROM, DATA, etc, and forged an e-mail that looked like it came from him and was sent to the whole of Network Engineering, probably close to 100 people at that time.

The e-mail basically said that effective immediately, he was retiring. That it had been great working with everyone, etc etc. I took care to write the e-mail using the same phrases, words, formats that he normally used.

And it worked! Everyone believed he had sent the e-mail. My own manager, who reported to the him, was heard joking around with some other managers, saying that the director was clearly playing an Aprils fools joke on his department, and that they were going to get him back by taking the e-mail to HIS manager, a Vice President, asking for clarification.

My director was in transit or something and didn't see the e-mail he supposedly sent.

Some members of his very first team, the telcom support desk, knew him from way back and were horrified. They had his person cell phone number, and called him directly to ask him why he was doing this!

He was quite confused, and called his managers to ask what the hell was going on.

Once my manager found out that the director has NOT sent the e-mail, his amusement turned into anger. The director wasn't amused, because of the disturbance it caused, but he wasn't super upset.

So around noon, there was an emergency department wide all hands called, and my manager, very angry (but he controlled his emotions well) told everyone what happened, and said that the security team was involved, and that whoever did it should come forward.

So after the meeting, I went to his office and said I did it, that I didn't think it would cause any harm, etc.

So next week, I pressed him: what are the consequences going to be? He was vague, and still quite angry about it. Not abusive, or even passive aggressive, but I could tell.

When the director came back, I apologized to him, and he was fairly neutral, which I took as a pretty bad sign.

So this waiting game ended up going on for months. On intervals, I kept asking my manager what was going to happen, because at that same time, I'd just bought a nice property and house and moved in. Losing my job right then would have been a very bad deal.

In the end, nothing happened at all. Over a year later, I found out through some people I knew that my manager had spent months trying to get permission from HR to fire me. They refused...over and over again. And in the end, I didn't even get an unofficial reprimand.

But it was pretty damn stressful!

Re: Microsoft Coffee

#50
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If this happened in 2021 someone would be in prison or fired at best. If that's the best case scenario, what's the worst? Firing squad?

This is a good example of how human language is ambiguous. You should read it as in the worst case in prison and in the best case fired.

Hah! That interpretation didn’t even occur to me, but yes that makes more sense.
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