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China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang

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Re: China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang

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Vaguely related, in that it involves harvesting cotton in Asia: Turkmenistan uses "forced labour" for the cotton harvest. As I understand it, they need a huge number of people for 2-3 months, so people get drafted in. From the point of view of human rights I suppose it's no worse than a compulsory military service. (Or am I missing something?) Nevertheless, many people would prefer not to buy that cotton or clothes m…

It's Uzbekistan not Turkmenistan, no?

Unless they are both at it.

Re: China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The centers of both parties have agreed for decades on selling debt to the Chinese and buying goods made with poorly protected labor.

This is the entire business model of Amazon, Walmart, etc etc. Every company on the fortune 500 basically.

Re: China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is only one way to flag an article here. For a lot of people to click flag. And given this happening 7:00 San Jose time, I doubt any of mods would be logging into their mod account first thing in the morning to manually flag it. Still telling. Tech industry has a lot of communists.

But why is it still flagged 4 hours later? The HN mods can and do turn off user flags on important stories. Edit: why is this being downvoted? You've never seen dang turn off flags? He admits it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15510075 So that raises the question: why not turn off flags on this story?

There are too many pink haired alphabet people. Everything they dont like is hate speech, triggering etc.

Re: China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang

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For some reasons I thought more or less forced labor has always been part of the communist doctrine. You are suppossed to always have a job whether you like it or not. The Xjinjiang thing brings this to a new level but I'm not entirely surprised. When were the dissidents treated fairly in communist systems?

I don't know why you're downvoted, it's absolutely true, all communist countries considered not having a job to be a very serious crime punished with many years in prison. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism_(social_offense)

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Re: China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang

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How come a link to REUTERS article, with the exact headline is flagged?

There is only one way to flag an article here. For a lot of people to click flag. And given this happening 7:00 San Jose time, I doubt any of mods would be logging into their mod account first thing in the morning to manually flag it. Still telling. Tech industry has a lot of communists.

What if I told you you could be a communist and condemn the atrocities done in the name of communist government. Though calling Chinese government a communist is same as calling North Korea a democratic republic.

Re: China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang

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How come a link to REUTERS article, with the exact headline is flagged?

There is only one way to flag an article here. For a lot of people to click flag. And given this happening 7:00 San Jose time, I doubt any of mods would be logging into their mod account first thing in the morning to manually flag it. Still telling. Tech industry has a lot of communists.

Or a few people with multiple accounts.

Re: China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I checked Adrian Zenz on wikipedia. Zenz is a born-again Christian, and has stated that he feels "led by God" in his research on Chinese minority groups. He wrote report on Tibetan forced labour too. Quite an interesting source of news by Reuters

He doesn't speak, read or write Chinese and has been caught manipulating, confabulating and straight up lying multiple times. He is a Christian fundamentalist, and has described other belief systems to Christianity as “ultimately inspired by Satan". He's also openly sexist and homophobic in unambiguously hateful ways. The article is over 3 months old and posted now for some reason.

> has been caught manipulating, confabulating and straight up lying multiple times.

Can you point to one such instance? Because personally I think the articles Zenz writes are much more reasonable than articles other people write with reference to Zenz. Specifically, he thoroughly annotatates factual statements with links to sources (often official data provided by the Chinese government), and when he presents his own interpretation, it is clear that it's just his opinion. I happen to often disagree with his opinions, but never with the facts he's basing them on.

Re: China accused of forcing 570k people to pick cotton in Xinjiang

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Thats not picked by machines ?

570.000 forced labourers just picking cotton certainly sounds a bit high ...

Even if one person picks up 100 kilo per day, that is more cotton per day than total produced by china in the whole year.

I wont question the validity of the article because I may be called a CCP shill ;)

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