Like everyone really cares about old dead art these days :)
Louvre makes its entire collection available online
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Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online
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That explains why original signed artworks are valuable, not really why NFTs are valuable after all if I wanted to buy a Jack Dorsey signature tweet for two million dollars or a Beeple collage for 70 million I'm sure Beeple would have gladly put it on a usb stick, signed me a card, printed it billboard sized and driven it to my house while taking me out for a steak dinner It's absolutely nebulous what the 'digital' p…
If he did that, it would be hard to then sell it in the future because now you have to verify if the signature is real or fake. The frequency of art forgeries demonstrates the issue. With an NFT, Jack just has to say that this one NFT is the original. Every subsequent transaction can verify the NFT's validity just using math.
There's a basic problem with that argument. There is no telling whether you're actually buying an NFT from Jack himself. In fact the NFT world already seems to have a fake and forgery issue of people who claim to have rights or be authors of creations they aren't even affiliated with.[1] Crypto just shifts the goalpost of what's being faked. Which is why the Beeple NFT sale didn't happen somewhere in the nether of the internet, but through Christie's, a 300 year old seller of art, after buyer and seller had communicated personally. They buyer didn't just fork over millions to a pseudonymous wallet-address. The actual verification of the transaction happened in the real world.
Also as a sidenote, you have actually no idea whether this particular blockchain will still be around in the future. In fact given the volatility of tech that's not really that likely to be honest.
[1]https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/20/22334527/nft-scams-artist...
Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
That explains why original signed artworks are valuable, not really why NFTs are valuable after all if I wanted to buy a Jack Dorsey signature tweet for two million dollars or a Beeple collage for 70 million I'm sure Beeple would have gladly put it on a usb stick, signed me a card, printed it billboard sized and driven it to my house while taking me out for a steak dinner It's absolutely nebulous what the 'digital' p…
If he did that, it would be hard to then sell it in the future because now you have to verify if the signature is real or fake. The frequency of art forgeries demonstrates the issue. With an NFT, Jack just has to say that this one NFT is the original. Every subsequent transaction can verify the NFT's validity just using math.
Doesn't that mean that in the future Jack can just mint a new NFT and say that the new one is in fact the canonical NFT for his first tweet? The only way to do it would be for NFTs to support non-repudation, but they don't.
The trust layer is in the physical world either based on hearsay or a physical contract with two parties. In any case, it's off-chain.
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#44I was kinda hoping for "gigapixel" scans so I can zoom right right right in to a painting or sculpture etc, and see the details.
Am I missing something or is it just a bunch of medium-res photos?
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#45The website seems to have been slashdotted.
Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for the links, absolutely great channels. I wonder if there exist something like curated "awesome list" of museums online? Because I don't even think it's possible to find these gems just doing a search on Google/YouTube which returns mostly low quality to spam results.
Maybe we can start an HN or Reddit thread and then link it from AwesomeMuseamsOnline.(whatever cheap tld)
Or an "Awesome list" on GitHub.
Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online
#47Recently the Amsterdam Rijks Museum made their collection available via API, which I used to create website which will show you a random artwork on each button press: https://randomrijks.com
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#48Dang, this is going to crash the NFT market for digital images of Lourve paintings.
I know you’re joking but lots of people still struggle with the reason why NFTs exist, including Apple’s unofficial PR department John Gruber. But it seems he finally understood it now thanks to this article: https://jackrusher.com/journal/what-does-it-mean-to-buy-a-gi... [0] https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/03/26/rusher-nfts
>but lots of people still struggle with the reason why NFTs exist
Huh? Isn't it obvious? They exist because some people have more money than sense.
>including Apple’s unofficial PR department John Gruber
Edgy. Do you also spell that Seattle-based OS company with a dollar sign for the S?
Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
If he did that, it would be hard to then sell it in the future because now you have to verify if the signature is real or fake. The frequency of art forgeries demonstrates the issue. With an NFT, Jack just has to say that this one NFT is the original. Every subsequent transaction can verify the NFT's validity just using math.
Doesn't that mean that in the future Jack can just mint a new NFT and say that the new one is in fact the canonical NFT for his first tweet? The only way to do it would be for NFTs to support non-repudation, but they don't. The trust layer is in the physical world either based on hearsay or a physical contract with two parties. In any case, it's off-chain.
I can sell Jack's tweet right now.
That's a bigger issue than Jack being able to sell it multiple times.
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#50I’m confused who this is for. It’s not the same experience seeing art online. Part of what makes the Louvre or other museums special is being in a beautiful and decorated historically important space. It puts you in a different mindset where you can wander, ponder, and appreciate. I’m no Luddite but a digital experience simply can’t recreate that, at least not today.
I guess that's why they did it? Because people who want the real experience will still go in person. As such, they aren't really losing any customers.
Yeh. I've spent years working with museums online and encouraging them to be more open about what they do - digital experiences enhance their standing in many ways. Partly it's access, partly marketing, partly education. And yes, the more people know about thing X online, the more likely that will "convert" to real physical visits to the organisation, which is normally the primary metric by which they guage success.