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Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#41
Well, there go my annual Tor donations, oh well. Let's see if they can make up for these losses by going the cancel culture/censorship route.

And Mozilla has been a joke for a while with their latest CEO. He's literally trying to jump on anything currently trendy, to hold onto his seat and salary for as long as possible while he drives its projects into the bedrock.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#42

Glad to see that Mozilla refuses to tolerate neurodiversity. Socially awkward people deserve to be permanently ostracized from society, am I right? I'm proud to use a web browser developed by people who offer no quarter to autists, schizos, and the rest of them loonies; if they wanted inclusion, they should just stop being mentally unwell - it's all in their heads, after all! Thank you, Mitchell Baker, very cool. (/s…

> I'm skeptical of the idea that having heterodox opinions or being a bit of a stubborn ass should be a fireable offense

It's more of an issue when someone is part of the leadership for a group though, as they are seen as representing the whole group.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#43
Mozilla once again shows themselves to be a biased, cancel culture friendly organization. I am less and less inclined to continue using Firefox or other products associated with them.

Here are a number of instances where they revealed their political biases and their anti-free-speech stance:

Firefox rejects free speech, bans free speech commenting plugin Dissenter from its extensions gallery https://reclaimthenet.org/firefox-rejects-free-speech-bans-f...

Mozilla turns its attention to censoring decentralized tech https://reclaimthenet.org/mozilla-turns-its-attention-to-cen...

Firefox maker Mozilla calls for “more than” deplatforming https://reclaimthenet.org/firefox-maker-mozilla-calls-for-mo...

Firefox introduces extension that automatically censors “hate speech” https://reclaimthenet.org/firefox-introduces-extension-that-...

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#44
I believe there is a significant chilling effect in regards to speaking out in the defense of Richard Stallman, a man who has never been convicted of a crime, and who in response to the allegations in the open letter has said things such as:

"We know that Giuffre was being coerced into sex – by Epstein. She was being harmed,"

"Through personal conversations in recent years, I've learned to understand how sex with a child can harm her psychologically. This changed my mind about the matter: I think adults should not do that,"

and

"Nothing could be further from the truth. I've called [Jeffrey Epstein] a 'serial rapist,' and said he deserved to be imprisoned. But many people now believe I defended him—and other inaccurate claims—and feel a real hurt because of what they believe I said. I'm sorry for that hurt. I wish I could have prevented the misunderstanding."

[0] https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=has%20richard%20stallm...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#Personal_life

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#45
post #38

Glad to see that Mozilla refuses to tolerate neurodiversity. Socially awkward people deserve to be permanently ostracized from society, am I right? I'm proud to use a web browser developed by people who offer no quarter to autists, schizos, and the rest of them loonies; if they wanted inclusion, they should just stop being mentally unwell - it's all in their heads, after all! Thank you, Mitchell Baker, very cool. (/s…

This is ableist nonsense. First, nobody is ostracizing Stallman for being socially awkward. He is being ostracized for sexual harassment. Second, neurodiversity and social awkwardness don't excuse you being an asshole, from being a bully, or from being a danger. I think most people, whether neurodiverse or not, understand that. Finally, does he have an autism diagnosis? Just like with the recent tragic Atlanta shooti…

Unbelievable... so autism is now a treatable disease? Is LGBTQ++ also treatable according to you?

Your comment is bigotted nonesense across the whole gamut.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#47
Please make this post link to the freely available open letter/ petition, instead of the pay walled article about it.

Also change the title to "Petition to oust RMS from FSF board"

https://rms-open-letter.github.io/

It's an impressive list of names, of whom I know a few personally and hold in high regards.

At this point I'm VERY curious to how RMS and the folks that requested him to come back to the FSF have to say in his defense.

I'm not fully aware of what he did, and to what extend he holds on to being a "misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among other serious accusations of impropriety". Hence I look fwd to a defense.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#48
post #16

I want to like Firefox. It is at least a tolerable alternative to Chrome. But the Mozilla foundation just taints it. Every time they come out with one of their sanctimonious PR releases they make me want to have less to do with them. I think they've completely lost their focus. I end up bouncing between Chrome, Firefox, and Brave. Brave makes me the happiest, but it's a minor player, and I'm worried about it's long-t…

Well, to me personally this might be the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back. Time to ditch Firefox and switch to Brave for good.

I really wish Brave didn’t use Chromium.

Is there some non-Mozilla Foundation fork of Firefox?

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#50
post #38

Glad to see that Mozilla refuses to tolerate neurodiversity. Socially awkward people deserve to be permanently ostracized from society, am I right? I'm proud to use a web browser developed by people who offer no quarter to autists, schizos, and the rest of them loonies; if they wanted inclusion, they should just stop being mentally unwell - it's all in their heads, after all! Thank you, Mitchell Baker, very cool. (/s…

This is ableist nonsense. First, nobody is ostracizing Stallman for being socially awkward. He is being ostracized for sexual harassment. Second, neurodiversity and social awkwardness don't excuse you being an asshole, from being a bully, or from being a danger. I think most people, whether neurodiverse or not, understand that. Finally, does he have an autism diagnosis? Just like with the recent tragic Atlanta shooti…

Sexual harassment? The claim that he wrote "knight of hot ladies" was false: it was a vandal. He's never groped or raped anyone. The worst true accusation is that he kept a mattress at the office which he used to sleep on.
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