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Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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This is going to sound silly but I’m absolutely serious: where are the cats?

It sounds like the numbers they're dealing with may be well beyond what could be controlled by cats. Additionally, they may be wary, as Australia is already a case study in what can happen as a result of introducing one species to control another's population: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_toads_in_Australia

I was about to say... shouldn't the cane toads take care of that?

Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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When I read that article, all I could think of was this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Pyu-Cj0gg (In case you're sensitive, it's farmers using pitchforks to turn soil in a fallow or recently harvested field that is ridden with rats, which flushes the rats. There are a handful of ratting dogs milling about which immediately chase and kill the rats. The way they do it is the dog grabs the rat in it's mouth an…

I wonder how many cats every house needs to rid it of mice. Given the volume, I doubt there are enough cats in Australia to even make a dent.

I’m Turkish and I find it interesting that the US and European cities are dealing with mouse / rat issues. We have tons of cats roaming the streets. I guess that’s the reason but I have ever seen one or maybe 2 live rats in my entire life.

Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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When I read that article, all I could think of was this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Pyu-Cj0gg (In case you're sensitive, it's farmers using pitchforks to turn soil in a fallow or recently harvested field that is ridden with rats, which flushes the rats. There are a handful of ratting dogs milling about which immediately chase and kill the rats. The way they do it is the dog grabs the rat in it's mouth an…

Or this guy, who uses trained mink and dogs for rat (and muskrat) control: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvzZLI04_is

Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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This is going to sound silly but I’m absolutely serious: where are the cats?

Australia doesn't have native cat species and introduced feral cats are considered invasive and aggressively hunted and killed by the government. Feral cats decimate indiginous rodents (not the mice here).

Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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When I read that article, all I could think of was this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Pyu-Cj0gg (In case you're sensitive, it's farmers using pitchforks to turn soil in a fallow or recently harvested field that is ridden with rats, which flushes the rats. There are a handful of ratting dogs milling about which immediately chase and kill the rats. The way they do it is the dog grabs the rat in it's mouth an…

I wonder how many cats every house needs to rid it of mice. Given the volume, I doubt there are enough cats in Australia to even make a dent.

Australia actually started a program to kill off feral cat populations a few years ago

Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

#46

This is going to sound silly but I’m absolutely serious: where are the cats?

Check out the documentary "Running Wild".

Cats are part of the problem, including camels, foxes, horses and other invasive species. They went through a lot of trouble to hunt down cats and contain them. Cats wreck native animal populations. They went so far as to fence off areas and train labrador dogs so that they don't hunt native predators such as the (tiny) marsupial "badgers".

Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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When I read that article, all I could think of was this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Pyu-Cj0gg (In case you're sensitive, it's farmers using pitchforks to turn soil in a fallow or recently harvested field that is ridden with rats, which flushes the rats. There are a handful of ratting dogs milling about which immediately chase and kill the rats. The way they do it is the dog grabs the rat in it's mouth an…

That's why these breads were called rattler in german.

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattler

Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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This is going to sound silly but I’m absolutely serious: where are the cats?

It sounds like the numbers they're dealing with may be well beyond what could be controlled by cats. Additionally, they may be wary, as Australia is already a case study in what can happen as a result of introducing one species to control another's population: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_toads_in_Australia

No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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When I read that article, all I could think of was this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Pyu-Cj0gg (In case you're sensitive, it's farmers using pitchforks to turn soil in a fallow or recently harvested field that is ridden with rats, which flushes the rats. There are a handful of ratting dogs milling about which immediately chase and kill the rats. The way they do it is the dog grabs the rat in it's mouth an…

I wonder how many cats every house needs to rid it of mice. Given the volume, I doubt there are enough cats in Australia to even make a dent.

In Australia feral cats are culled since they kill the native animals.

There's even a guy that skins them and turns then into stubby holders.

https://youtu.be/VaB9J8JHVxI

Re: Mouse plague grows to biblical proportions across eastern Australia

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I wonder how many cats every house needs to rid it of mice. Given the volume, I doubt there are enough cats in Australia to even make a dent.

I’m Turkish and I find it interesting that the US and European cities are dealing with mouse / rat issues. We have tons of cats roaming the streets. I guess that’s the reason but I have ever seen one or maybe 2 live rats in my entire life.

When I visited Athens, the massive colonies of feral cats were very notable. They could take over parks.

American culture is specifically oriented toward preventing this kind of thing from happening. A feral cat is judged to be in need of a home. And there is a very widespread popular effort to say that you are doing something immoral if you don't spay your cat -- if a fertile cat did go feral, it might have children!

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