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Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by emodendroket »

seneca wrote: post #35
emodendroket wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there's no serious left-wing insurgency anybody is worried about. There are people who like posting guillotine images on Twitter but little real-world impact.

There were left wing rioters burning down buildings all summer and pushing for extreme policies to be instituted in our government. I'm quite worried about that, and the fact that many power centers fell in line to pretend it wasn't happening.

And what impact have they had beyond a bunch of anodyne "we support black lives" statements? It's not even clear to me that the rioters were particularly well organized or politically engaged so I'm not sure that social media targeting would make much difference (with I guess the possible exception of censoring any police violence videos).

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Post by betterunix2 »

twiclo wrote: post #37
guscost wrote: post #21

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Oh and also, nearly killing a US representative with a semiautomatic rifle.

Every rifle is semiautomatic

Not true, here is one of many counterexamples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_700

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by [deleted] »

betterunix2 wrote: post #34
leesalminen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The average American in 2008 wasn't setting fire to courthouses. Let's not pretend that far-left extremism is something other than what it actually is.

That is classic, soviet-style whataboutism. Yes, there are some left-wing extremists who have committed terrorist acts in recent years, but no, it is not the same as right-wing extremism. There are no left-wing militias running drills and planning to kidnap governors. Right-wing extremists exist in greater numbers, are more organized, and have been responsible for more violence in recent years than left-wing extremis…

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Post by seneca »

twiclo wrote: post #37
guscost wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh and also, nearly killing a US representative with a semiautomatic rifle.

Every rifle is semiautomatic

> Every rifle is semiautomatic

This is just incorrect. Bolt action and muzzleloaded rifles are both extremely common and not semiautomatic.

That being said, "semiautomatic" is usually a useless scare-word thrown in by people who have no clue what they're talking about.

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Post by emodendroket »

jtdev wrote: post #36
emodendroket wrote: post #11

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I think you have to play pretty fast and loose with the groups involved to come to these conclusions.

Please explain what you mean by this.

The Democrats beat back a left-wing challenge from their base quite handily and Joe Biden was proud to say so. When I consider this and the generally contemptuous attitude of Dems toward their more progressive supporters, I find the notion of a Red Guard reshaping America in their image something like a fever dream and not a serious analysis.

To my mind the Capitol raid is playing a much larger role in their minds. The thought isn't "we need to create a far left America" but "we came way too close to the peaceful transfer of power being usurped."

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Post by 2lwxxtj »

betterunix2 wrote: post #34
leesalminen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The average American in 2008 wasn't setting fire to courthouses. Let's not pretend that far-left extremism is something other than what it actually is.

That is classic, soviet-style whataboutism. Yes, there are some left-wing extremists who have committed terrorist acts in recent years, but no, it is not the same as right-wing extremism. There are no left-wing militias running drills and planning to kidnap governors. Right-wing extremists exist in greater numbers, are more organized, and have been responsible for more violence in recent years than left-wing extremis…

How exactly are you quantifying the amount of violence for which each side is responsible?

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Post by rscoots »

emodendroket wrote: post #32
newsclues wrote: post #29

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My mom got sucked into the RussiaGate hoax, so we should look into shutting down CNN and other propaganda outlets

Russiagate has its similarities but there are obvious limitations to trying to shut down any false or exaggerated narrative being promoted by people with federal power. But hey if you've got a plan I'm listening.

You'll note that the user you're replying to mentioned news organizations, not people with fedal power. Can you name the people at these large tech companies you trust to determine what constitutes a hoax and what doesn't? How will you hold them to account should they get it wrong?

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by [deleted] »

emodendroket wrote: post #45
jtdev wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please explain what you mean by this.

The Democrats beat back a left-wing challenge from their base quite handily and Joe Biden was proud to say so. When I consider this and the generally contemptuous attitude of Dems toward their more progressive supporters, I find the notion of a Red Guard reshaping America in their image something like a fever dream and not a serious analysis. To my mind the Capitol raid is playing a much larger role in their minds. T…

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Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Post by leesalminen »

seneca wrote: post #44
twiclo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every rifle is semiautomatic

> Every rifle is semiautomatic This is just incorrect. Bolt action and muzzleloaded rifles are both extremely common and not semiautomatic. That being said, "semiautomatic" is usually a useless scare-word thrown in by people who have no clue what they're talking about.

My mother believed for the majority of her adult life that “semi-automatic” meant “fully automatic”, as in “squeeze once, all the bullets come out”. It’s incredible that people with little to no knowledge of the mechanics of guns want to regulate exactly that.
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