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Re: OVH CEO Octave Klaba speaking about the incident [video]

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Post by kazen44 »

jonas21 wrote: post #39
ev1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an apples to oranges comparison. OVH largely sells bare metal; their public cloud wasn't really impacted. If you are using AWS, Google, or Azure, ran a single (or multiple machines) inside a single AZ with no backups and opted out of snapshots, you would face the exact same situation. I can definitely say I see people complaining about how everything they have is down on AWS when us-east-1 goes down periodica…

On the other hand, just about every month, there's a story on HN saying why are you wasting your money on AWS when OVH is so much cheaper (for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24966028 ). And well, I guess this is one of the reasons.

how so? using OVH and their bare metal servers doesn't absolve you from doing your own due dilligence.

As said earlier, their cloud service is unaffected.

Re: OVH CEO Octave Klaba speaking about the incident [video]

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Post by bigyikes »

notJim wrote: post #27

Not to be rude, but it's really wild to me that even after all this time during the pandemic, the CEO doesn't have a headset he can use so that the audio is intelligible. It's gotta be one of the highest ROI investments you can possibly make at this point.

This also frustrates me so much with all the newly-live-streamed events this year. So many companies are spending so much money putting together virtual conferences, but can’t be bothered to ship their speakers a decent mic or webcam. Heck, Apple’s $20 headphones would make a huge difference. Instead we get audio that sounds like it was recorded in my shower.

Re: OVH CEO Octave Klaba speaking about the incident [video]

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Post by jeffbee »

mikepurvis wrote: post #34
deftnerd wrote: post #23

Are there industry options or methods of wiring to allow for a UPS room separate from the actual rooms the racks are stored in? It's almost tradition to have a rack with UPS's in the bottom and then the rest of the space filled with servers or drive arrays. We wouldn't ever think of putting a tiny backup generator in the bottom of every rack, so why do we put a battery storage system there? Also, with the advances in…

For the extreme opposite of that, Google famously trolled everyone 10 years ago by announcing that every one of their servers had its own in-chassis 12V battery: https://www.cnet.com/news/google-uncloaks-once-secret-server...

Yes but Google also later moved to a 48VDC power architecture with the batteries at the bottom of the rack.

See http://apec.dev.itswebs.com/Portals/0/APEC%202017%20Files/Pl... page 6.

Re: OVH CEO Octave Klaba speaking about the incident [video]

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Post by Thaxll »

abluecloud wrote: post #32
notJim wrote: post #27

Not to be rude, but it's really wild to me that even after all this time during the pandemic, the CEO doesn't have a headset he can use so that the audio is intelligible. It's gotta be one of the highest ROI investments you can possibly make at this point.

a functioning fire suppression system would have probably been better but second to that i guess a mic would be a good investment

So putting water on servers don't destroy them?

Re: OVH CEO Octave Klaba speaking about the incident [video]

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Post by sneak »

notJim wrote: post #27

Not to be rude, but it's really wild to me that even after all this time during the pandemic, the CEO doesn't have a headset he can use so that the audio is intelligible. It's gotta be one of the highest ROI investments you can possibly make at this point.

Headset with mic, a neutral backdrop, a key light, a good camera, and a skincare routine have all paid for themselves 10x since this thing started, in my case.

Re: OVH CEO Octave Klaba speaking about the incident [video]

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Post by bayindirh »

deftnerd wrote: post #23

Are there industry options or methods of wiring to allow for a UPS room separate from the actual rooms the racks are stored in? It's almost tradition to have a rack with UPS's in the bottom and then the rest of the space filled with servers or drive arrays. We wouldn't ever think of putting a tiny backup generator in the bottom of every rack, so why do we put a battery storage system there? Also, with the advances in…

Our current DC has generation and UPSes in different rooms, in isolated places from each other. Both are pretty far from the actual DC itself.

Re: OVH CEO Octave Klaba speaking about the incident [video]

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Post by ev1 »

jonas21 wrote: post #39
ev1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an apples to oranges comparison. OVH largely sells bare metal; their public cloud wasn't really impacted. If you are using AWS, Google, or Azure, ran a single (or multiple machines) inside a single AZ with no backups and opted out of snapshots, you would face the exact same situation. I can definitely say I see people complaining about how everything they have is down on AWS when us-east-1 goes down periodica…

On the other hand, just about every month, there's a story on HN saying why are you wasting your money on AWS when OVH is so much cheaper (for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24966028 ). And well, I guess this is one of the reasons.

If you choose to run 100% of your workload on a single EC2 VM in us-east-chaos-monkey and put nothing in S3, only local mounted block storage that also disappears when you reboot your on-demand EC2, that is on you.

Re: OVH CEO Octave Klaba speaking about the incident [video]

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Post by yholio »

makkesk8 wrote: post #26

If it turns out it's the upses that caught fire, one can't help but wonder if it would be a better idea to house the upses/backup power solutions in an adjacent smaller building outfitted with sprinklers perhaps?

The problem with water in the same place with high power equipment is that it instantly turns the room into a death trap for any personnel, now everything is potentially live.

Also, in the first part of a lithium battery fire, dropping water on them is quite explosive. It will eventually quench the fire but on the short run it will make it worse, filling the room with explosive hydrogen and poisonous lithium hydroxide. So when your water sprinklers engage over your UPS, you better be sure there's nobody around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTJh_bzI0QQ

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