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Bitcoin may consume as much energy as all data centers globally

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Re: Bitcoin may consume as much energy as all data centers globally

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

VISA alone processes over 60,000 transactions per second [0] and only uses a tiny subset of the world's data centers. Bitcoin processes a whooping 7 transactions per second and consumes as much energy as *all data centers globally*. I'm curious to hear what dumb use of energy you have in your head that rivals this level of stupidity. edit: I'll address the "apple to oranges" replies here: you can combine the energy c…

This conversation never goes anywhere because it's apples and oranges. VISA connects other intermediaries. It isn't actually transferring money, its basically getting two parties to agree to a transfer with a huge pile of terms and fees. It's just not the same thing.

Yes, but it's so easy to bring up as an argument...

Re: Bitcoin may consume as much energy as all data centers globally

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There are so many frustrated nocoiners here on HN, it’s crazy. It’s interesting that on a tech site people can be more negative towards new technology, than on youtube for example, where I don’t see so much hate....I just don’t understand why.

Re: Bitcoin may consume as much energy as all data centers globally

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Bitcoin is a good thing. It's a simple financial system with very few rules that can serve as an anti-fragile backbone for much bigger systems on top of it. Instead of looking for ways to curtail it (because that ALWAYS works, right?) we should be looking for cleaner ways to power it like renewables and nuclear.

Let’s just pretend that all bitcoin mining was done in data centers.

That means that whatever practical good bitcoin provides, we’ve DOUBLED the energy usage of data centers.

Is that good worth having to build that much additional capacity?

What about the problem that bitcoin keeps increasing it’s energy usage?

And finally, is there no more efficient (in energy usage) way of doing the same thing?

Re: Bitcoin may consume as much energy as all data centers globally

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Bitcoin does not consume energy. Miners do. Before presenting your views on Bitcoin, you should have some knowledge about how the network works, in particular how mining difficulty is regulated. Bitcoin would do just fine if its energy consumption dropped to 2008 levels.

Um, if it was at 2008 levels, wouldn't somebody do a 51% attack?

Re: Bitcoin may consume as much energy as all data centers globally

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, pretty much expected these comments would appear soon. How come everytime Bitcoin thread is started, 99% of comments are people absolutely clueless about how difficulty is regulated within Bitcoin protocol?

There was no comment about BTC difficulty. It's a comment about the pernicious impact of BTC on the world with practically no benefit to show for it.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/810859107894008357/

Re: Bitcoin may consume as much energy as all data centers globally

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Bitcoin does not consume energy. Miners do. Before presenting your views on Bitcoin, you should have some knowledge about how the network works, in particular how mining difficulty is regulated. Bitcoin would do just fine if its energy consumption dropped to 2008 levels.

Bitcoin is set up to incentivise exactly the behaviour we're seeing right now, it's built into the structure of bitcoin combined with human psychology.

So yes bitcoin absolutely consumes energy, it goes hand it hand with bitcoin being a popular speculation vehicle.

Re: Bitcoin may consume as much energy as all data centers globally

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There are so many frustrated nocoiners here on HN, it’s crazy. It’s interesting that on a tech site people can be more negative towards new technology, than on youtube for example, where I don’t see so much hate....I just don’t understand why.

They read that Bitcoin uses more electric than Argentina and now they have their panties in a bunch because they believe the talking heads that say climate change will end the world.

Re: Bitcoin may consume as much energy as all data centers globally

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Another anti-Bitcoin article focusing on energy consumption, how original. HN has discussed this to death.

The original element of the article is the perspective it's offering regarding _how much_ energy bitcoin consumes.

You can dismiss it each time it comes up, but the reality of the situation isn't changing.

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