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Re: Flutter 2

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Post by garrtt » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:48 PM UTC

> Google Pay switched to Flutter a few months ago for their flagship mobile app, and they already achieved major gains in productivity and quality. By unifying the codebase, the team removed feature disparity between platforms and eliminated over half a million lines of code.

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Re: Flutter 2

#42

Post by tasogare » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:48 PM UTC

endisneigh wrote: post #32

AlotOfReading wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This strikes me as akin to wishing for mathematics to step out of its infancy and adopting a single notation.

I don't understand - Math is a great example because the notation is bounded across all disciplines of math. Can you imagine if Physics used different "math" and "notation" compared to Chemistry or Computer Science? You don't have to learn a different math to understand different disciplines in the same way you have to learn different programming languages to understand different programs. Perhaps I'm misunderstandin…

Math isn’t written using the same notation across human languages, so it’s not a good counter example either.

Re: Flutter 2

#43

Post by Tokiin » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

codercotton wrote: post #29

They are dependent on Flutter for Stadia, which is cancelled? The disparity is annoying...

Stadia has not been cancelled, they just shuttered the internal development studios. The service itself is still alive and getting new games frequently.

Re: Flutter 2

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Post by meibo » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

codercotton wrote: post #29

They are dependent on Flutter for Stadia, which is cancelled? The disparity is annoying...

Stadia isn't cancelled. The studio is. Stadia itself won't go away any time soon.

Re: Flutter 2

#45

Post by timsneath » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

open-paren wrote: post #9

Congrats to the Flutter and Dart teams! This is a huge accomplishment. However, I worry about accessibility story for Flutter applications. Am I naïve? Should screen-reader support be a concern for the kind of complex visual applications that Flutter is built for?

Screen reader should always be a concern! But we built accessibility as a core feature of Flutter from the start. You can read about our support for screen readers here: https://flutter.dev/docs/development/accessibility-and-local... including a session where a developer who is blind shows how to make an app accessible.

Flutter 2 also supports accessibility for web apps, and you can use Windows Narrator, VoiceOver, TalkBack, or ChromeVox screen readers to navigate a Flutter web app.

Re: Flutter 2

#46

Post by distribot » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

ahmedfromtunis wrote: post #36

This is definitely interesting; I'm so tempted to try this. But the question that comes to mind with this kind of the technology from Google: is there any mandatory Google services that I'd have to use? Just as an example: Do I have to use Google's ad platform or I can use any other service?

I think this kind of lock in doesn't exist because you can create bridges to native code anywhere in the code.

Re: Flutter 2

#47

Post by dstaley » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

lucasmullens wrote: post #24

dstaley wrote: post #7

Flutter for Web feels like such a wild step backwards in terms of functionality that I'm not sure the benefits it brings are worth it. I just tried a few samples, and basic interactions like selecting text, saving images, and opening links in new tabs don't work. This is the result of rendering everything to a element. I'm much more interested in a React Native style approach, which seems to provide a consistent set…

Is that the CanvasKit renderer or the HTML renderer?

I hope it's CanvasKit because if those interactions are also broken in the HTML renderer that's even worse!

Re: Flutter 2

#48

Post by bilal4hmed » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

ahmedfromtunis wrote: post #36

This is definitely interesting; I'm so tempted to try this. But the question that comes to mind with this kind of the technology from Google: is there any mandatory Google services that I'd have to use? Just as an example: Do I have to use Google's ad platform or I can use any other service?

you dont have to use any google services to work with flutter.

Re: Flutter 2

#49

Post by zbowling » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

codercotton wrote: post #29

They are dependent on Flutter for Stadia, which is cancelled? The disparity is annoying...

Stadia isn't/wasn't canceled. Only Google's first party development studio was closed. Stadia the platform is still a thing.

Re: Flutter 2

#50

Post by kureikain » Wed, Mar 03, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

I want to love Flutter. But once looking at it, it's a no go. It's the new flash. Really, you cannot copy the text anymore. React native is my goto solution now.