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Re: Little League wants all your information

#41
post #12

Why do they "need" 3 proofs of residency?!

I played soccer in HS. There were rumors of aspiring players parents renting apartments in different districts to make them eligible for a certain league or district.

I'm guessing this takes aim at parents who are trying to easily forge eligibility of their child.

Re: Little League wants all your information

#42

Oh hey, Hacker News! This is my post. I’m not strictly allergic to proving that I live in a certain place, so long as the evidence is securely deleted afterward. I’m very opposed to the idea that they can share all of those records with any of their partners or sponsors as they see fit. For example, “proof of residency 3” includes financial or medical records. Suppose that Large Corporation donates $1,000 to Little L…

I think this is just poorly written, or written to fit all use cases. There is a lot behind little league, and it’s not obvious until you get into it. I was on a little league board. In my state, we had pretty strict background check requirements, and those providers were the “trusted partners” that were given sensitive information. Now, little league volunteers are mandated reporters in New York, so the government g…

Some (including me) would argue that "elite travel teams" and the like should not even exist at this level.

Re: Little League wants all your information

#43

Oh hey, Hacker News! This is my post. I’m not strictly allergic to proving that I live in a certain place, so long as the evidence is securely deleted afterward. I’m very opposed to the idea that they can share all of those records with any of their partners or sponsors as they see fit. For example, “proof of residency 3” includes financial or medical records. Suppose that Large Corporation donates $1,000 to Little L…

I think this is just poorly written, or written to fit all use cases. There is a lot behind little league, and it’s not obvious until you get into it. I was on a little league board. In my state, we had pretty strict background check requirements, and those providers were the “trusted partners” that were given sensitive information. Now, little league volunteers are mandated reporters in New York, so the government g…

I’m curious since you actually went through the effort to be a part of the org: why do we need to formalize everything?

Why not just get kids together to play baseball?

Why capital Little capital League?

Why do we have to normalize towards an organizational system?

Academically it all makes sense; our scientific truth must be rigorously vetted.

This all just feels like busy work for no gain for most people. I really don’t get the fucking point?

Is it so hard to set up a game between your kids and others as human beings? Why pomp and circumstance?

Re: Little League wants all your information

#44

Oh hey, Hacker News! This is my post. I’m not strictly allergic to proving that I live in a certain place, so long as the evidence is securely deleted afterward. I’m very opposed to the idea that they can share all of those records with any of their partners or sponsors as they see fit. For example, “proof of residency 3” includes financial or medical records. Suppose that Large Corporation donates $1,000 to Little L…

I think this is just poorly written, or written to fit all use cases. There is a lot behind little league, and it’s not obvious until you get into it. I was on a little league board. In my state, we had pretty strict background check requirements, and those providers were the “trusted partners” that were given sensitive information. Now, little league volunteers are mandated reporters in New York, so the government g…

The privacy policy could easily be that PII will only be used where required by law.

We run in circles avoiding saying that the organization should just do what is required to serve the people it was formed to serve, it's really something.

Re: Little League wants all your information

#45

Oh hey, Hacker News! This is my post. I’m not strictly allergic to proving that I live in a certain place, so long as the evidence is securely deleted afterward. I’m very opposed to the idea that they can share all of those records with any of their partners or sponsors as they see fit. For example, “proof of residency 3” includes financial or medical records. Suppose that Large Corporation donates $1,000 to Little L…

Do you recall who the service provider was for the organization. Like SportEngine (owned by NBC) etc…?

I think this is a major issue since most are large companies that can and will sell that data to highest bidder.

Re: Little League wants all your information

#46
post #35

I'm just starting to forge documents for this garbage. School records? Easy, download them, change my address to one a few miles away in the same city, change a few numbers of my SSN, etc. Same goes for utility bills, financial records, etc. Fuck the data miners. The isn't even criminal to do because I'm not defrauding anyone. The address is still one in my city. They never do any actual verification so it always wor…

An alternative is to redact any unnecessary information. More people should know/do this. Proof of residency should only require state or zip code. Send in a DL with everything but your name and state blacked out. If they push back, then they will be forced to justify why they need the other info. Remember they rely on your league fees to exist. Much better to push back directly than to cry foul/play a victim/complai…

I was automatically issued a New York license to an out of state address once. They aren't foolproof documents.

Re: Little League wants all your information

#47
post #14

People complain about data harvesting (and I don't want mine harvested either) but would would also balk at paying the "true" cost of some things if the data being sold subsidy was removed. Shorter: You get what you pay for.

> but would would also balk at paying the "true" cost of some things if the data being sold subsidy was removed

If they would, demand for the product would go down, and the company would have to adjust itself. It isn't and all or nothing.

>You get what you pay for.

This implies that one can pay extra to preserve privacy.

Edit: please keep parent comment alive. This is a discussion we should have.

Re: Little League wants all your information

#48
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty strict background check? Just so your kid can play Little League? Please help me understand why. If the parent were signing up to coach, I could understand. But just to have a kid in the league. I don't get it.

It’s referring to strict background checks for the volunteers.

Yes thanks to Larry Nassir and Jerry Sandusky every volunteer parent on every youth sports club is seen as a potential pedophile. Mandatory background checks, mandatory training on bullying, harassment, hazing, physical abuse, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, and sexual misconduct is now required. It has really made it much more difficult for leagues to get volunteers because though many parents want to help, most don't want to have to submit to this level of scrutiny and demands on their time.

Re: Little League wants all your information

#49

Oh hey, Hacker News! This is my post. I’m not strictly allergic to proving that I live in a certain place, so long as the evidence is securely deleted afterward. I’m very opposed to the idea that they can share all of those records with any of their partners or sponsors as they see fit. For example, “proof of residency 3” includes financial or medical records. Suppose that Large Corporation donates $1,000 to Little L…

I think this is just poorly written, or written to fit all use cases. There is a lot behind little league, and it’s not obvious until you get into it. I was on a little league board. In my state, we had pretty strict background check requirements, and those providers were the “trusted partners” that were given sensitive information. Now, little league volunteers are mandated reporters in New York, so the government g…

The problem with this "they don't intend to use this overly-broad power in that way" line of thinking is that, even if you could be completely assured that it is true, there is no telling who will come into power in the future. You don't leave a gun laying around in the open.

Re: Little League wants all your information

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is just poorly written, or written to fit all use cases. There is a lot behind little league, and it’s not obvious until you get into it. I was on a little league board. In my state, we had pretty strict background check requirements, and those providers were the “trusted partners” that were given sensitive information. Now, little league volunteers are mandated reporters in New York, so the government g…

> Age is very important for leveling kids appropriately and keeping them safe, which is why birth certificates are required — parents are insane and go to extreme lengths (I personally encountered forged documents, parents who delayed entry into kindergarten to age 6, bogus documents from siblings or cousins, etc) to try to let older kids play in younger levels. This being HN, I figure I can make this criticism and b…

This comment sounds like something Linus Torvalds would say - completely eviscerating but entirely accurate.
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